If the publishers' electronic text files are used to set the type when they produce a print book and if we are expected to retain any errors in the print copies in our scans and proofreadings then how can a PQ book be of inferior quality to our efforts? "If you tremble with indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine." Che Guevara The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com/txtindex.shtml Pathfinder Press: http://www.pathfinderpress.com Granma International: http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html _ table with 2 columns and 6 rows Subj: [bksvol-discuss] Re: If You See Duplicates Date: 7/21/2009 1:21:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Reply-to: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent from the Internet (Details) table end Hi Kim, Your points are well taken. Believe me, I understand the frustration of having one's hard work replaced with, in some cases, a product that is not nearly the quality of the original submission. I have read a couple PQ books, and have not found a problem with them, but that is certainly not a definitive statement as to the quality of all of the PQ books in the collection. If there are problems with these books, as with any in the collection, they should be reported to Bookshare. Like it or not, I think we're going to have to accept the fact that PQ books are going to replace some of our hard work. I was just trying to make the pill a little easier to swallow. Blessings. Lynn I block quote ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim Friedman To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:35 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: If You See Duplicates Hi, Lynne, Kim here. I understand what you mean, but I have also talked to Solsticesinger, and she wonders why she should go through all the trouble of scanning and/or proofreading a book, only to have it replaced by something that may not necessarily be of as good a quality. Just because something is marked as publisher quality doesn't guarantee it will be of sterling quality. Forgive me for playing devil's advocate with you, but I think it is wise to not assume that publishers are all that scrupulous about their text files. Are any of them cleaning up their typographical errors and are books really being edited? Think about this now. Do you really want your hard work to be set aside, especially if it is marked as being of excellent quality where you have slaved your heart out making sure everything looks good and lacks errors? I could understand you not minding if the scanning was of fair or good quality. You'd want only the best quality you can get so the books would be a pleasure to read. Now I've ranted enough, so happy scanning and proofreading you all, Kim aka Ellinder. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn I Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:47 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: If You See Duplicates I really don't mind my work being replaced with a PQ book. Maybe I'm strange, but what is important to me as that I get to read the book. Whether I scanned it or proofread it, I was able to read it. *smile* Blessings. Lynn I block quote ----- Original Message ----- From: Cindy To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: If You See Duplicates When the publishers started submitting their copies ones that the volunteers had done were deleted from the collection, even though they were perfect (at least I know mine was). I'm not sure how perfect rtthe PQ copies were then. Have any of you downloaded one of each and compared them? Maybe it's now a bad thing to have more than one copie of a title in the collection. YOU can read whichever is better. Except that apparently part of the del with the publishers, at leasst some of them, was thatr the bopy that was not theirs would be deleted from the collection. My proofread copy of Delinsky's The Passions of Chelsea Kane is still in the collection, but my proofread copy of A Womanm Betrayed has been replaced by a PQ copy. Too bad they aren't the same titles so someone could see ow the PQ copy compares. Unfortunately, I can't remember what other of my work might have been replaced, except probably some of the Princess Diaries. We had to do those becuse the PQ copies weren't going to be available in time. I would like to know from some of you if the PQ editions are indeed perfect. I checked a few other books I remember proofreading but there aren't any PQ versions of them in the collection (except there is a PQ version of The Princess Diaries Diaries (vol. 1)I know it's a good thing for bookshare to have books from the publishers but when one has worked carefully on a book, especially if it was a long one or needed a lot of work , one hates to see one's work be thrown out. smile Cindy Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and books-being-scanned list available at sites below Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List Books Being Scanned List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Lynn I <lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: block quote From: Lynn I <lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: If You See Duplicates To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 7:21 AM That's a very good question. I'm finding more and more duplicate books in the collection. One is usually a publisher quality copy and the other is a copy submitted by a volunteer. Blessings. Lynn I ----- Original Message ----- From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 6:44 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] If You See Duplicates Hi, This weekend when I was doing a search, I found books whose titles or authors so closely matched that I thought that they might be duplicates. Whom do I email about this? Thanks. Jim ---------- Jim Homme Usability Services 412-544-1810 james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx "You can do anything you want to if you put your mind to it" -- Jim Homme Sr. -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melissa Smith Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:36 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Duplication on list of books ready for proofing Deadly Deceit by Jay Dix is on the list of books that are ready to be checked out for proofing twice. One says BSO and the other does not. Melissa To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. This e-mail and any attachments to it are confidential and are intended solely for use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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