I wouldn't call for abolition either. The main problem with the holds that I see is that they get in the way when we browse for books to proofread that are not on hold. A seperate page for the holds or even a search feature that could be used to exclude terms such as the phrase "hold for" would do. Also an expiration date for holds sounds like a good idea. It could be generous like six months or even a year. That way if a proofreader dropped out of sight without any of us knowing what happened the books would not languish on the download list forever. "Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marx table with 2 columns and 6 rows Subj: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Hold fors Date: 3/4/2009 5:59:01 PM Eastern Standard Time From: ccfeist@xxxxxxxxxx Reply-to: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent from the Internet (Details) table end I certainly am not one wanting to see it abolished. Heavens no. However, I see a rising need for it to be modified due to the larger number of proofreaders available that can get books on-line in a timely fashion. If some new validators throw up their hands and just give up on volunteering all-together due to so very many holds, and being held for so long, then that would undoubtedly be a step backwards for Bookshare. I can sympathize with those feelings completely. You may say that the reasons for the holds come up every few months when someone questions it's validity and are then answered. But I feel it's validity in it's current state needs to be questioned even further, and as of yet I'm not seeing a sensible reason for this hold process to remain the exact way it is. Does anyone know if staff has an opinion on this at this point? Are our concerns being heard or are we spitting into the wind here. LOL. Chris Feist - The one and only! "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart, and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." - Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965) -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of E. I have used "hold for" to work with a submitter to proof read books which are in a series. This has been successful with various submitters and various series. In other situations, a Submitter puts "hold for" on a book which I previously had requested be scanned and I then proof read the book. Those people who object to the "hold for" policy hear the reasons for it to exist every few months when they bring up the idea of abolishing it. E. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)