[bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
- From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:38:27 -0600
Header avoidance in K1K was designed for KES files OCRed by K1K, not DAISY
documents inherited from another source. The design of the function
predates Bookshare.
Having said that, it is clear that Kurzweil 1000 Daisy support could use
some updating.
G.
Guido Dante Corona
IBM Research,
Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
Austin Tx.
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Well, we have been doing some of the same things. I also found the one
page variation, but why should one have to work so hard to get adequate
information. When I opened the book in FS Reader, the pagination was
correct. The page numbers were also there when I looked at the html copy.
But when I used the brf copy with Kurzweil no page numbers appeared and
the length of the book was about 66 pages longer. What is strange about
the brf material is that there is no cognizance of page changes. Chapters
will begin on the same page with the Contents of the book, and most
chapters begin in the middle of a page. One would think that there was a
better way.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third
Reich
Okay, this is pretty strange.
As I said in a previous message I was using k1000v10. Others with other
software or other versions of Kurzweil may find different results.
I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise and fall of the third Reich" and
opened it in Kurzweil.
There are random page numbers that do show in the book, page VII for
example. However, most are missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if
you make allowances for the extra page that bookshare adds in on page two.
For example, page 1524 in the book was reported on page 1525. So, to find
out what page you are on press shift f1 in the book and mentally add the
number 1 to whatever k1000 reports you are on.
I checked out header avoidance in the reading settings, making sure that
header avoidance was enabled. According to the manual, this should report
page headings, but it doesn't.
I swear the page numbers were there when the book was submitted to the
bookshare administration. I can only conclude that the stripper took them
out, or Kurzweil isn't reporting them.
I am going to save the book in .txt format, open it with a good old text
editor and see if page numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there. But,
don't hold your breath. I'll report it if there is any difference.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Cross
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third
Reich
Will the daisy tags indicate the actual page number or will those tags
reflect the number of pages, including introductory pages? Any way, I
will try that right now.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kellie Hartmann
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third
Reich
If you get the Daisy version, you can see the page numbers in the Daisy
tags using the Bookmark list commands. Otherwise, you can use a notetaker
or bookport or book courrier if you have one, or, if you need to, you can
use Internet Explorer to read the html version included with the Daisy
version. Use the Jaws placemarker commands to make bookmarks or save your
place, or convert the file back to txt with Explorer and put it back in
Kurzweil.
Kellie
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