[bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

Bob, the short answer is that by moving page numbers from the body text to 
the NCX file, the    processor generates a DAISY document that can give a 
user the greatest possible reading flexibility.  A well behaved  DAISY 
reader can then served both lovers of inline page numbers and haters of 
inline page numbers through a simple setting:

a. Announce page numbers during continuous reading, and announce them also 
during manual navigation that crosses page boundaries.
 
b. Ignore page numbers during continuous reading, but still announce page 
numbers when navigating manually across page boundaries.

c. Ignore page numbers during continuous reading, and ignore them also 
during manual navigation across page boundaries.

In all cases a/b/c the DAISY reader would support page navigation: 
previous/next/goto/where-am-I.

If page numbers were only copied into the NCX file without removing them 
from the bodytext, page numbers would always be announced, regardless of 
user preferences. 

G.

Guido Dante Corona
IBM Research,
Human Ability & Accessibility Center,   (HA&AC)
Austin Tx.
Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able

". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who 
were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who 
questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being wise."
[David Poyer, The Command]




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Why does the bookshare tool remove page numbers from the document, why not 
just copy them to the ncx file.
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You are correct Kenneth,  any piece of hardware or software is regretably 
useful only to these who use them. 
On the other hand,  the fact that the ICON handles page navigation of both 
bodytext and preliminary page numbering correctly in Too Far Afield', 
leads me to believe that Bookshare's page encoding may be correct: page 
numbers have been removed from the document file and moved to the NCX 
markup for navigation, which is what is supposed to happen. 
Instead, I am still concerned about chapter headings.  I did find some 
problems in how I had normalized them in the source file.  I will submit a 
new replacement version soon.  I am looking forward to discover if Chapter 
heading are inserted in the NCX correctly this time.   

G. 

Guido Dante Corona
IBM Research,
Human Ability & Accessibility Center,   (HA&AC)
Austin Tx.
Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able

". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who 
were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who 
questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being wise."
[David Poyer, The Command]



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That, of course, is useful only to those who own such a machine, which I 
would guess has quite a hefty price. 
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Hi Kenneth, The ICON by Levelstar and the sister product called Braille 
Plus from APH are handheld computers for the blind.  One of their many 
capabilities is to search and download wirelessly books directly from 
bookshare and to read them with a very nice DAISY reader.  They use the 
Eloquence TTS and have a 30Gb hard drive for storage.  You will find info 
on the icon at: 

http://www.levelstar.com 

Toll free: 800-315-2305. 

I have covered the icon in my column for AFB's AccessWorld in November 
2007.  See: 

 http://afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080602 

There is an ICON discussion list.  Send a note to: 

Icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

and enter 'subscribe' in the subject field. 

Feel free to contact me privately if you want more info. 

G. 




Guido Dante Corona
IBM Research,
Human Ability & Accessibility Center,   (HA&AC)
Austin Tx.
Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able

". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who 
were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who 
questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being wise."
[David Poyer, The Command]


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And what is the levelstar icon? 
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The Levelstar ICON exposes page numbers in The Rise And Fall.  G. 


Guido Dante Corona
IBM Research,
Human Ability & Accessibility Center,   (HA&AC)
Austin Tx.
Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able

". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who 
were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who 
questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being wise."
[David Poyer, The Command]

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Okay, I understand that page numbers are stripped by Kurzweil.  So, I have 
downloaded the BookShare file and would now like to ask this question. 
What device do I use to open this book so that the page numbers are 
revealed to me?  Any help would be appreciated. 

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