[bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

  • From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:36:59 -0600

Yes, I've considered it but have vain hopes that my son will move his music off 
my hard drive onto his.

Kids!

Thanks, I'll check into these sites.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Guido Corona 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 6:20 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third 
Reich



  Bob,  if you are experiencing disk space problems,  have you considered 
getting a small external hard drive?  It is possible to find them some weeks at 
about $50 at one of the major retailers around the nation.  I usually look at 
salescircular.com.  here are the listings for TEXAS: 
  http://salescircular.com/tx/computer/hdiskp.shtml 

  Guido 
    

  Guido Dante Corona
  IBM Research,
  Human Ability & Accessibility Center,   (HA&AC)
  Austin Tx.
  Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
  Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
  Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able

  ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who were 
guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who questioned the 
most were in the end those who came closest to being wise."
  [David Poyer, The Command]



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  Unfortunately, I no longer have the original document. It's a big book and I 
  have limitted disk space.

  Sorry.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
  To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:43 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third 
  Reich


  > Ok.  Whoever validated the Rise and Fall, would you please e-mail me 
  > pages,
  > Roman numeral 10, 11, and 12?  If you kept the book that you validated, 
  > this
  > should be an easy task.  I'd like to compare the input with the resulting
  > text.  I believe I know what's happening but would like to confirm.  If 
  > you
  > don't have the text available, please let me know and I'll contact Claire.
  > I'll write a separate message regarding what happens with Kes and Braille.
  > There have been more than 60 messages on this topic in the last few days 
  > and
  > it might just confuse a lot of people.  If you have the pages, you can 
  > send
  > them to me at pratikp1@xxxxxxxxxx  There is no reason for the list to get
  > involved until I can check this out.
  >
  > Regards,
  >
  >
  > Pratik
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s.
  > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:19 PM
  > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third
  > Reich
  >
  > I've seen it often, where chapters end in the middle of the page, and a 
  > new
  > chapter starts on the same page right below the previous chapter's ending,
  > but I
  > can't recall ever seeing a table of contents ending and chapter 1 
  > beginning
  > on
  > the same page.
  >
  > Judy s.
  > cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >
  > Kenneth Cross wrote:
  >> Just how many books have you validated where a chapter actually began on
  >> the same page where the book's Contents ended; i.e., Contents ends,
  >> Chapter 1 is indicated, and part of Chapter 1 begins on that same page?
  >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy"
  > <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:35 PM
  >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the
  >> Third Reich
  >>
  >>
  >>> In many print books, such as the book I'm validating
  >>> now, chapters do begin in the middle of the page,
  >>> though I don't see any logical reason for it. I also
  >>> don't see a reason why chapters have to begin on an
  >>> odd-numbered, or right-hand (facing the reader) page,
  >>> requiring a blank page preceding it. This is as
  >>> annoying to the sighted reader as it probably is to a
  >>> blind reader--and a waste of paper.
  >>>
  >>> G.Cindy
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> - Chapters will begin on the same page with
  >>>> the Contents of the book, and most chapters begin in
  >>>> the middle of a page.  One would think that there
  >>>> was a better way.
  >>>>   ----- Original Message -----   From: Bob
  >>>>   To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >>>>   Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:50 PM
  >>>>   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
  >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>   Okay, this is pretty strange.
  >>>>
  >>>>   As I said in a previous message I was using
  >>>> k1000v10. Others with other software or other
  >>>> versions of Kurzweil may find different results.
  >>>>
  >>>>   I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise and fall
  >>>> of the third Reich" and opened it in Kurzweil.
  >>>>
  >>>>   There are random page numbers that do show in the
  >>>> book, page VII for example. However, most are
  >>>> missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if you
  >>>> make allowances for the extra page that bookshare
  >>>> adds in on page two. For example, page 1524 in the
  >>>> book was reported on page 1525. So, to find out what
  >>>> page you are on press shift f1 in the book and
  >>>> mentally add the number 1 to whatever k1000 reports
  >>>> you are on.
  >>>>
  >>>>   I checked out header avoidance in the reading
  >>>> settings, making sure that header avoidance was
  >>>> enabled. According to the manual, this should report
  >>>> page headings, but it doesn't.
  >>>>
  >>>>   I swear the page numbers were there when the book
  >>>> was submitted to the bookshare administration. I can
  >>>> only conclude that the stripper took them out, or
  >>>> Kurzweil isn't reporting them.
  >>>>
  >>>>   I am going to save the book in .txt format, open
  >>>> it with a good old text editor and see if page
  >>>> numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there. But,
  >>>> don't hold your breath. I'll report it if there is
  >>>> any difference.
  >>>>
  >>>>   Bob
  >>>>     ----- Original Message -----     From: Kenneth Cross
  >>>>     To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >>>>     Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM
  >>>>     Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
  >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>     Will the daisy tags indicate the actual page
  >>>> number or will those tags reflect the number of
  >>>> pages, including introductory pages?  Any way, I
  >>>> will try that right now.
  >>>>       ----- Original Message -----       From: Kellie Hartmann
  >>>>       To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >>>>       Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51 PM
  >>>>       Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
  >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>       If you get the Daisy version, you can see the
  >>>> page numbers in the Daisy tags using the Bookmark
  >>>> list commands. Otherwise, you can use a notetaker or
  >>>> bookport or book courrier if you have one, or, if
  >>>> you need to, you can use Internet Explorer to read
  >>>> the html version included with the Daisy version.
  >>>> Use the Jaws placemarker commands to make bookmarks
  >>>> or save your place, or convert the file back to txt
  >>>> with Explorer and put it back in Kurzweil.
  >>>>       Kellie
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
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