[bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:39:00 -0800 (PST)

Actually, I have validated one or two that way and it
is very unusual. But I'm talking about books where the
chapter ends on a right-hand page, the even-numbered
page, but instead of the next chapter beginning on the
next page, which would be an odd-numbered page, that
page is blank, and the next chapter begins on the page
after the blank page, the even-numbered page. Yet if
the chapter ends on the odd-numbered page, the next
chapter begins on the very next page, the facing,
even-numbered page. The book I'm validating now is
just like that, and many of the books I've done are
that way. I have to go out now, but if you want some
titles to download and see what I mean, I'll send you
some later. smile.

G.Cindy

--- Kenneth Cross <crossk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Just how many books have you validated where a
> chapter actually began on the 
> same page where the book's Contents ended; i.e.,
> Contents ends, Chapter 1 is 
> indicated, and part of Chapter 1 begins on that same
> page?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:35 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise
> and Fall of the Third 
> Reich
> 
> 
> > In many print books, such as the book I'm
> validating
> > now, chapters do begin in the middle of the page,
> > though I don't see any logical reason for it. I
> also
> > don't see a reason why chapters have to begin on
> an
> > odd-numbered, or right-hand (facing the reader)
> page,
> > requiring a blank page preceding it. This is as
> > annoying to the sighted reader as it probably is
> to a
> > blind reader--and a waste of paper.
> >
> > G.Cindy
> >
> >
> > - Chapters will begin on the same page with
> >> the Contents of the book, and most chapters begin
> in
> >> the middle of a page.  One would think that there
> >> was a better way.
> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>   From: Bob
> >>   To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>   Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:50 PM
> >>   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
> >> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
> >>
> >>
> >>   Okay, this is pretty strange.
> >>
> >>   As I said in a previous message I was using
> >> k1000v10. Others with other software or other
> >> versions of Kurzweil may find different results.
> >>
> >>   I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise and
> fall
> >> of the third Reich" and opened it in Kurzweil.
> >>
> >>   There are random page numbers that do show in
> the
> >> book, page VII for example. However, most are
> >> missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if you
> >> make allowances for the extra page that bookshare
> >> adds in on page two. For example, page 1524 in
> the
> >> book was reported on page 1525. So, to find out
> what
> >> page you are on press shift f1 in the book and
> >> mentally add the number 1 to whatever k1000
> reports
> >> you are on.
> >>
> >>   I checked out header avoidance in the reading
> >> settings, making sure that header avoidance was
> >> enabled. According to the manual, this should
> report
> >> page headings, but it doesn't.
> >>
> >>   I swear the page numbers were there when the
> book
> >> was submitted to the bookshare administration. I
> can
> >> only conclude that the stripper took them out, or
> >> Kurzweil isn't reporting them.
> >>
> >>   I am going to save the book in .txt format,
> open
> >> it with a good old text editor and see if page
> >> numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there. But,
> >> don't hold your breath. I'll report it if there
> is
> >> any difference.
> >>
> >>   Bob
> >>     ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>     From: Kenneth Cross
> >>     To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>     Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM
> >>     Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with
> The
> >> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
> >>
> >>
> >>     Will the daisy tags indicate the actual page
> >> number or will those tags reflect the number of
> >> pages, including introductory pages?  Any way, I
> >> will try that right now.
> >>       ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>       From: Kellie Hartmann
> >>       To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>       Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51 PM
> >>       Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with
> The
> >> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
> >>
> >>
> >>       If you get the Daisy version, you can see
> the
> >> page numbers in the Daisy tags using the Bookmark
> >> list commands. Otherwise, you can use a notetaker
> or
> >> bookport or book courrier if you have one, or, if
> >> you need to, you can use Internet Explorer to
> read
> >> the html version included with the Daisy version.
> >> Use the Jaws placemarker commands to make
> bookmarks
> >> or save your place, or convert the file back to
> txt
> >> with Explorer and put it back in Kurzweil.
> >>       Kellie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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> >
> >
> > WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The
> Bookshare Collection)is 
> > available at
> >
>
http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm
> > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
> >
>
http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm
> >
> > www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful
> threads
> >
> >
> > 
> >
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