Actually, I have validated one or two that way and it is very unusual. But I'm talking about books where the chapter ends on a right-hand page, the even-numbered page, but instead of the next chapter beginning on the next page, which would be an odd-numbered page, that page is blank, and the next chapter begins on the page after the blank page, the even-numbered page. Yet if the chapter ends on the odd-numbered page, the next chapter begins on the very next page, the facing, even-numbered page. The book I'm validating now is just like that, and many of the books I've done are that way. I have to go out now, but if you want some titles to download and see what I mean, I'll send you some later. smile. G.Cindy --- Kenneth Cross <crossk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Just how many books have you validated where a > chapter actually began on the > same page where the book's Contents ended; i.e., > Contents ends, Chapter 1 is > indicated, and part of Chapter 1 begins on that same > page? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:35 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise > and Fall of the Third > Reich > > > > In many print books, such as the book I'm > validating > > now, chapters do begin in the middle of the page, > > though I don't see any logical reason for it. I > also > > don't see a reason why chapters have to begin on > an > > odd-numbered, or right-hand (facing the reader) > page, > > requiring a blank page preceding it. This is as > > annoying to the sighted reader as it probably is > to a > > blind reader--and a waste of paper. > > > > G.Cindy > > > > > > - Chapters will begin on the same page with > >> the Contents of the book, and most chapters begin > in > >> the middle of a page. One would think that there > >> was a better way. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Bob > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:50 PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The > >> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich > >> > >> > >> Okay, this is pretty strange. > >> > >> As I said in a previous message I was using > >> k1000v10. Others with other software or other > >> versions of Kurzweil may find different results. > >> > >> I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise and > fall > >> of the third Reich" and opened it in Kurzweil. > >> > >> There are random page numbers that do show in > the > >> book, page VII for example. However, most are > >> missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if you > >> make allowances for the extra page that bookshare > >> adds in on page two. For example, page 1524 in > the > >> book was reported on page 1525. So, to find out > what > >> page you are on press shift f1 in the book and > >> mentally add the number 1 to whatever k1000 > reports > >> you are on. > >> > >> I checked out header avoidance in the reading > >> settings, making sure that header avoidance was > >> enabled. According to the manual, this should > report > >> page headings, but it doesn't. > >> > >> I swear the page numbers were there when the > book > >> was submitted to the bookshare administration. I > can > >> only conclude that the stripper took them out, or > >> Kurzweil isn't reporting them. > >> > >> I am going to save the book in .txt format, > open > >> it with a good old text editor and see if page > >> numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there. But, > >> don't hold your breath. I'll report it if there > is > >> any difference. > >> > >> Bob > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Kenneth Cross > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with > The > >> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich > >> > >> > >> Will the daisy tags indicate the actual page > >> number or will those tags reflect the number of > >> pages, including introductory pages? Any way, I > >> will try that right now. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Kellie Hartmann > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51 PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with > The > >> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich > >> > >> > >> If you get the Daisy version, you can see > the > >> page numbers in the Daisy tags using the Bookmark > >> list commands. Otherwise, you can use a notetaker > or > >> bookport or book courrier if you have one, or, if > >> you need to, you can use Internet Explorer to > read > >> the html version included with the Daisy version. > >> Use the Jaws placemarker commands to make > bookmarks > >> or save your place, or convert the file back to > txt > >> with Explorer and put it back in Kurzweil. > >> Kellie > >> > >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.19.7/1232 > >> - Release Date: 1/18/2008 7:32 PM > >> > > > > > > WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The > Bookshare Collection)is > > available at > > > http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm > > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ > > > http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm > > > > www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful > threads > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Yahoo! 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