[bksvol-discuss] Re: Headers question for scanning

Hi, Lissi. And you're doing a fine job! <smile> We all started out not 
knowing a lick about what we were doing. I know I did, and I still don't 
claim that *everything* I do is right when it comes to scanning, submitting 
and/or validating. That's what's so great about this list. Take care.
Julie Morales
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Headers question for scanning


Oops, forgive me, I forgot the keystrokes for adding a page break would send
the message. I'll try again being more careful

first example of Lissi's format

page number at the top

out of the wild.
blank line
page break
blank line
46
blank line
As he ran down the road

second example
page number at the bottom

out of the wild
blank line
46
blank line
page break
blank line
As he ran down the road

Julie is right that often page headers have the page number on the same
line. My personal routine is to delete the header and leave the page number
which I always place at the left margin.

I will never ever suggest that my way is the best or only way. I'm just
sharing my approach. Obviously Bookshare is pleased with most of our uploads
despite some differences in formatting.

Keep in mind that time isn't a factor for me. My first year my average was
over a month per book, including some short children's books. I was working
like crazy to achieve that much with some time out for health issues.

This year I'm averaging a book a week and I'm happy with that. I also
understand how to manage my queue, not taking many books so my turn around
time will be fairly quick and no book will wait for months to be validated.
I think I'm qualified to matriculate to third grade in validating and if it
weren't for patiently given advice from many of you, I'd still be spinning
in place in kindergarten.

Always with love,

Lissi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Katie Star" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Headers question for scanning


> Hello Julie and Lissi,
>
> I think there is so much information here that often times we ask a
> question
> again because when it came around the last time we weren't ready for it.
>
> Here is my question. Which is preferred
>
> Out of the wild 46
>
> As he ran down the road
>
> Or
>
> Out of the wild
>
> 46
>
> As he ran down the road ...
>
> I thought I read that it is preferred to have the page number with a blank
> line on either side. Maybe it makes no difference.
>
> Katie Hill
> Miracles happen not in opposition to Nature, but in opposition to
>
> what we know of Nature.
>
> -St. Augustine
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julie Morales
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:17 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Headers question for scanning
>
> Hi, Lissi. Page numbers do now appear in the braille files, and I've been
> meaning to discuss this with you, anyway. I'm finally getting around to
> looking at A CELTIC CHRISTMAS, which was submitted after the BRF files
> were
> redone, and there are two page numbers in the file now. There's the page
> number the Bookshare system puts in, then the page number I'm assuming you
> put in, so somehow, they didn't end up matching up. That's another reason,
> I
>
> suppose, I just leave the headers in, especially if the page number
> appears
> in that header, which often, in the books I scan, it does. Take care.
> Julie Morales
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 3:11 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Headers question for scanning
>
>
> Dear Volunteers,
>
> I'm interested in the answer to Rick's question, too. When I validate I
> delete the running headers. Am I confusing the system even more than usual
> by doing this. And, are page numbers better at the top? I thought the last
> word was it didn't matter, but I'd gladly put them uniformly at the top.
>
> I know they should be all at the top or all at the bottom but not in mixed
> locations within a book.
>
> If brf file users have a never fail system for protecting page numbers so
> they appear in the collections downloaded books, I'd be relieved to have
> this foolproof method and would use it religiously.
>
> Currently, I've abandoned my extra blank line with a line of dash dash
> dash,
> and just place a blank line above and below page numbers.
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rik James" <d28rik@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:05 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Headers question for scanning
>
>
>>I have a question for scanning books for submission.
>> As I understand it, there is something called a stripper, which looks to
>> the
>> top of each page for the page number, and strips out the text that is
>> there,
>> which is usually repeated text like title on one page, chapter title or
>> author on the other.
>>
>> Since as a listening reader to this book, the repetitive text is not
>> really
>> essential and mostly just a distraction from the narrative, I like the
>> Daisy
>> books I have downloaded from Bookshare where the page numbers are all
>> that
>> I
>> hear.  I figure this must be a recent thing, since many other Bookshare
>> books I have read do have the header text in there.
>>
>> Now, my queistion --  Should we as scanners of the book remove this text?
>> I have heard folks talk about moving page numbers to top of page.  But I
>> have not heard yet if we should remove the text.
>>
>> Hoping to start scanning The Big Bam, the new biography of Babe Ruth this
>> weekend.
>>
>> If this is so, perhaps it could be stated in the information for the new
>> Bookshare members when they begin to scan and submit to our collection.
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Rik
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