[bksvol-discuss] Re: Guidance needed

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:52:12 -0800 (PST)

> Sorry for the soapbox discussion.
> I guess I should jump down and go back to my cage.
> <smile>

No, I think you have some very valid points (though I
am not a Braille user) and ones that need to be
brought to the attention of the bookshare people. I
don't know what the solution would be--perhaps to have
someone like you re-do the Braille copies that need
redoing. I don't know how it is done now or what other
Braille users do. Maybe the books can be converted at
home to eliminate problems. I'm sure some Braille
users will chime in. smile

Cindy


--- "Westmoreland, J. R." <jr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Okay, that explains why I find problems with the
> .brf files. The files
> can't just be imported into DBT, or whatever, and be
> expected to work
> right.
> From real world experience I have found several
> problems.
> Here is a short list for the curious:
> 1) Often cases where the italic/bold codes land in
> the wrong place on
> conversion and generate incorrect output.
> 2) Elipsis issues. These can come from many causes.
> 3) Things that cause spaces to appear in the
> braille, thereby tripping
> up the translator.
> 4) Format problems that get introduced by the
> conversion of .doc files
> to .dxp, and I assume other input processes. E.g.,
> poem, etc.
> 5) Blank lines that either shouldn't, or sometimes
> should, be there.
> ETC.
> 
> All of the above can't be handled, at least not that
> I know of, yet in
> an automated fashion.
> 
> Maybe I'm just being a bit hyper but I feel like if
> one is going to do
> it it should be done to the best of ones ability.
> Braille should be the best we can possibly make it
> and not an
> afterthought.
> 
> Sorry for the soapbox discussion.
> I guess I should jump down and go back to my cage.
> <smile>
> 
> Thanks,
> J. R.
>  
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Cindy
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 1:28 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Guidance needed
> 
> Julie gave an excellent, clear, detailed description
> of the procedure.
> The only thing I would add is that you should keep
> the book in rtf to
> upload. You can change it to Word to work on but
> should change back to
> rtf to upload. Bookshare will then convert to brf
> and daisy.
> 
> If you've downloaded a brf book to validate, then
> you need to keep it in
> brf format when you upload. It can't be converted to
> rtf. If you've
> taken one from the collection to improve the brf
> format, then when you
> upload it you need to put that in the comments
> section so Gustavo will
> know to replace just the brf copy that's in the
> collection--and put BSO
> in front of the title so he's know it's a
> replacement.
> 
> As Julie says, feel free to ask anything here.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> 
> 
> --- Julie Morales <mercy421@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > OK, assuming the book is in RTF format when it's
> received...did you 
> > register to become a volunteer? Did you get the
> instructions for 
> > validating books?
> > That would be a start and give you some things to
> look for. In those 
> > instructions, the bare minimum is listed, but many
> of us do more than 
> > that.
> > If you don't have those instructions, I don't have
> them, but maybe 
> > someone has a copy they can send you. If you're
> taking a book from the
> 
> > Step One page, where you download books that need
> to be validated, you
> 
> > check for completion to make sure the book is
> complete with no missing
> 
> > pages. You check copyright info and make sure the
> book is not an 
> > e-book. There are some university materials that
> are submitted that 
> > throw people off because they look like e-books,
> but those are not to 
> > be rejected.
> > <smile> You do a spell
> > check and fix any errors you find, or, if you're
> so inclined, you can 
> > read the book completely through and correct
> errors as you come to 
> > them. Page breaks are a must. Bookshare will no
> longer accept books 
> > without page breaks, but usually, that's not
> something you have to 
> > worry about with an RTF file. I'm not sure if I've
> answered your 
> > question, but if not, definitely feel free to ask
> more. That's what 
> > this list is for and I'm sure someone will be glad
> to help. Take care.
> > Julie Morales
> > Children are fragile. Handle with prayer.
> --Unknown
> > 
> > 
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