[bksvol-discuss] Re: Fractions in bookshare files for Braille readers
- From: Scott Rains <scottr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:29:50 -0700
Hi Folks,
Fractions, and thus cookbooks, are infamously problematic technical issues
around Bookshare. I wonder how many print disabled chef's dinner parties we
have ruined by just a fraction of this or that ingredient being off?
The ideal is that someday we will build a converter to render fractions for
print to digital smoothly and accurately. The bottleneck is that the DAISY
Consortium continues to delay making a decision on what the international
standard will be. Until then an automated solution cannot be built.
In the meantime the best solution is to tailor your practice to the advice
being given in this thread by those who use Braille.
Scott Rains
Benetech Fellow, Bookshare Volunteer Department
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On Behalf Of Kim Friedman [kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:07 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fractions in bookshare files for Braille readers
Hi, Valerie, I am not familiar with how cookbooks are written in print, but I
do know how they're supposed to look in Braille. I do not consider the hyphen
as an alteration of text because the hyphen serves as a sort of ampersand
without taking up space. I'm not being dogmatic, just letting you in on how
Braille looks if you're writing fractions in what we call "literary" Braille.
In mathematical Braille, they would be written differently. I wish I could let
you see it, but if I were to write out the way it appears in Braille, it
wouldn't make any sense to you. Another Braille reader would know what I was
talking about, but I wouldn't wish to overwhelm you. Regards, Kim.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:18 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fractions in bookshare files for Braille readers
Hi, Kim!
I didn't think we were allowed to alter text by inserting hyphens. I
personally feel it reads easier with a space between the whole number and
fraction and unless mandated, would NEVER take the time to insert hyphens in
mixed fractions. So, be forewarned if it is a pet peeve of yours that you will
not like my submission after proofreading Bakewise.
Valerie
On Jun 20, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Kim Friedman wrote:
Hi, Pam I would write 1/2 or 1/4 or 1-1/8. When I see fractions, the slash goes
between the numerator and the denominator without spaces. Hope this helps.
Regards, Kim Friedman. P.S.: One of my pet peeves is seeing a mixed fraction
(such as 1-1/2 being written 1 1/2. K.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pamela Hoffard
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 6:13 PM
To: book list
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Fractions in bookshare files for Braille readers
Hey all,
I'm coming across a bunch of fractions for recipes in the book that I'm
proofing. For Braille readers, is the 1 / 2 format better than the symbol 1
over 2 in one individual space (sorry I can't make this symbol in e-mail). Any
preference?
Thanks for your thoughts,
Pam
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