[bksvol-discuss] Re: Format Frustration

Here here.  Let's start rewarding people who submit poor quality books.

E.
At 12:37 AM 9/15/2006, you wrote:

One of the arguments that did get to me and is going
to cause me to reject certain books that need a lot of
fixing but is "fun" rather than "important" is that by
fixing those books, usually harlequins submitted by
SWMNBN (She Who Mustn't Be Named--smile) is that I'm
not discouraging her from submitting them but am
rewarding her. So I am not going to put any effort
into her books but will reject them quickly if they
have a lot of errors.

However, if a good-quality, important-in-my opinion
book is submitted by somebody I like who I know tries
her best, I will put in the time required.

Cindy

--- "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The person who scans the book is not required to fix
> it up.  Whether you
> think they should or not, bookshare does not require
> it.  Hence th books on
> that old list mostly have rating below excellent.
> Unless bookshare starts
> a policy of only accepting excellent submits I do
> not know how to fix this
> issue.  I for one wish bookshare had some kind of
> floor of quality below
> which submits could not sink.
>
> Without such a quality requirement, we get lots of
> poor quality books.  In
> the past, many of them have had txt ratings.  It
> will be interesting to
> find out if books of better scanned quality now get
> input given the exit of
> txt format.
>
> It would also be interesting to track whether the
> same people are the ones
> who submit books below excellent quality over and
> over again.  Somebody
> from bookshare might be able to kindly work with the
> person/organization to
> make their submits come out better.  I just wonder
> that bookshare refused
> to up its quality requirements.  It makes for such
> havoc among validators
> and such guilt.
>
> E.
> At 05:46 PM 9/14/2006, you wrote:
>
> >I agree here.  Had I the funds I might upgrade to
> K1K.  But my OpenBook
> >works well enough, and I actually like many of its
> features very well.  To
> >purchase a maintenance agreement for the next 2
> upgrades from Freedom
> >Scientific is much more affordable.  But you do
> have to work with the
> >program it and learn it. Using to adjust the
> Settings how the Features work.
> >though I know some have a dim view of it.
> >
> >One thing I have come to feel is this:  It really
> comes down to being the
> >work of the person who scans the book to take the
> time up front to check
> >their work as they go.   Scanning rapidly page
> after page and missing all
> >the junk just is a big headache to anyone
> validating or then reading.  I
> >can't really tolerate listening to the noise of
> junk characters, when it is
> >getting so very possible to have good clean reading
> material.
> >
> >For me on my system, it seems I will be scanning
> along for many pages, with
> >few problems, then it is like the pc or scanner
> goes to take a coffee break
> >and starts putting in some junk.  Now, realizing
> this, I check each page.
> >If there is junk, I DELETE the page, and do it
> again.  Often the next scan
> >of it is perfect.  Many things could have caused
> it.  Me being lazy on the
> >pressing down, the computer was going after some
> kilobyte somewhere else, or
> >the taliban were saying tally-ho, I don't know.
> >
> >I tried reading as I go and sometimes I do, but
> sometimes I just don't want
> >to be at the desk to read, would rather be peeling
> carrots and reading or
> >something.  So I convert the text to a temporary
> RTF file and read it on the
> >Book Port or something mobile.  I make bookmarks
> and note of the errors and
> >go back and fix them.
> >
> >Just some bright ideas on an otherwise dull day!
> <grin>
> >
> >Thanks to the validator who did my Bob Wills
> biography submission, just
> >approved for the collection yesterday.  The Daisy
> file of it is a dream to
> >read.  (my secret motivation - the navigible Daisy
> file!!)  (grin)
> >
> >Thanks.
> >Rik
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Monica Willyard
> >Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:46 PM
> >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Format Frustration
> >
> >Kellie has described my situation exactly.  If I
> had the money to
> >switch, I'd have done it long ago.  Having said
> that, Gerald, Jim,
> >Pratik, and Jake have all helped me tweak my
> Openbook settings so my
> >scans are pretty good now.  Openbook can and does
> work well once you
> >get rid of some of the default settings.  K1000
> produces great scans
> >with its defaults, and I almost cried when my demo
> ran
> >out.  :(  Still, Openbook does have the ability to
> scan well.  Now I
> >need to look on Jake's site to see if there is a
> helpful hint for
> >Openbook users on adjusting their settings.  If
> not, maybe I should
> >write down what the gentlemen from this list have
> taught me.  (smile)
> >
> >Monica Willyard
> >
> >On Thursday 9/14/2006 03:10 PM, you wrote:
> > >Hi E,
> > >One thing to keep in mind is that, even with
> K1k's excellent upgrade policy
> > >replacing Openbook with K1k costs around $500. I
> know that I for one would
> > >not find it easy to come up with this amount of
> money. So even if an
> > >Openbook user agrees that K1k is preferable and
> would like to switch, it
> >may
> > >not be possible.
> >
> >
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