[bksvol-discuss] Re: Format Frustration
- From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:52:09 -0500
Hi Mayrie,
No, unfortunately it isn't acceptable to download a file, convert it and
then resubmit. This doesn't allow for tracking of the original submitter,
and subsequently doesn't allow for them to receive credit for their book.
You're not the first one to suggest the idea, and it's a good one, just one
we can't do.
HTH,
Jake
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From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:48 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Format Frustration
Hi Monica,
I sure can appreciate your frustration. Perhaps the best thing
that can be done is to encourage, as is done on this list, that people
submit their books in RTF format. I can't speak about Open Book, but I
know that the files created in Kurzweil can be converted to RTF with
Kurzweil. And this conversion takes very little time. I have had to
learn to do this myself to increase the number of validators available to
validate the books that I submit. Also, and I don't know whether this is
acceptable, but could someone simply download the ARK files and convert
them to RTF, then put them back up. That would mean that more people
could be available to validate those books.
Also, I think the reason for doing away with submissions in TXT
format is that a lot of formatting is lost in txT that isn't lost in those
other proprietary formats.
I hope something can be done to help you feel better about what's
happening here. Your choice to validate boring books was very kind. I
also know that there are people volunteering with a wealth of different
interests. If it would be acceptable, I think I know someone that would
be willing to convert the ARK files to RTF, but wouldn't necessarily be
interested in validating them. Perhaps someone can let us know whether
this would be helpful.
Peace,
Mayrie
At 08:04 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote:
I just saw the notice on Jake's site about the format policy changes that
Bookshare is implementing. I don't think whoever is making that decision
has heard a single word we've said about this topic. I'm deeply
disappointed, frustrated, and I'm disgusted by what I have just read.
While they have eliminated text submissions, the most platform independent
format, they are still allowing books to be submitted in Wyn, Openbook,
and Kurzweil proprietary formats. I want to scream, but no one would hear
me if I did. Does anyone even care that there are some Wyn and Openbook
formats that have been on the validation list for 3 years? Can anyone
around here even open a Wyn file? I thought we were supposed to be
unifying things so that our validators could actually open the books being
submitted. Because most people here can't open Openbook files, I have
pushed myself to take these books, passing up books I really wanted to
work on. I am aware that no one forced me to do this. I wanted to be a
team player and help out where I'm needed most, and it seemed wrong to
have people submit their work and have it sit there for years because so
few people can open the files. I kept telling myself that I wouldn't be
needed to work on these kinds of books once the changes took place. I'm
not doing that anymore because it's not going to change anything, and
whoever is submitting these boring books will just keep on submitting in
this format because Bookshare officially encourages it.
Monica Willyard
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