[bksvol-discuss] Re: For Lissi was how do I
- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:32:56 -0400
Hi Lissie,
Just as a FYI.
The slash, or "left mouse botton" according to jaws is the top row, second
one from the left. the "star key" or "right mouse button" is the next key
to the right.
The minus sign, or "jaws curser" is the one in the top right corner, with
the plus or "pc curser" right below it.
Smile.
Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
Graduate Alumni Association Board
www.guidedogs.com
More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my
limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
- Helen Keller
----- Original Message -----
From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:00 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Lissi was how do I
Dear Lisa, Cindy W4, Jackie, Mayrie, Dave, and Booksharian Friends,
Lisa, your advice worked on my first try!!!
Cindy W4's advice about getting the spell checker to check spelling again
worked last Saturday night, too!
For the very first time, my ears took me all the way through both pages of
the uploading process tonight when I uploaded Junie B. Jones Has a Peep in
Her Pocket #15, which Anastasia scanned so competently! I'm ecstatic! It was
so much faster!
As you guessed, Lisa, I was getting bumped because I was using the enter key
to ask the computer to go out of forms mode!
The b to take me to the browse button was a snappy time-saver, as well.
As much as I still don't know about computers, like where is the slash key
on the num pad, what I do know makes me feel positively brilliant! I mean,
when they work, computers still amaze me.
I am behind on the many thank yous I owe to people here who have helped me
when something I don't understand about my computer stops me in my tracks.
I'm one of the listers who doesn't mind some off topic talking because this
list feels so family, so friendly, that I love hearing more about what
others here are thinking and doing. I'd really be lost volunteering if I
didn't have this list to come to when I'm stalled.
The volunteers here, mostly on list, but off list, too, have virtually
taught me to use computers, scanners, JAWS, K 1000, Outlook Express, Word,
Internet explorer, and fun stuff like winamp and internet radio.
Many, many thanks to all of you! This is a wonderful group! We're so good
for Bookshare and good for each other!
Always with love,
Lissi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <lisab12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:06 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] For Lissi was how do I
> Hi, Lissi.
>
> I'm totally blind, and I've used JAWS with XP, using either Internet
> Explorer 6 or 7 and have only had problems locating the Browse button
> once, and that was when I was using a public beta of JAWS 9.
> Unfortunately, I don't remember what I did to find the browse button back
> then. it was last October and I've slept a few times since then. <grins>
>
> I'm not sure if you have tried any of these suggestions or not, but here's
> a few things you can try:
>
> First, when you are in the edit field and you deactivate forms mode, do
> you press enter or are you pressing the Plus key (also called the PC
> Cursor), on your numpad to exit forms mode? If you pressed enter, I think
> the Okay button gets activated, so the form thinks you're trying to upload
> a file, but since there's not a file name there, it generates an error
> message.
>
> Here's a couple of ways to move to buttons quickly.
>
> You can press the letter B while on a web page. Be sure you're not in
> forms mode first. This should locate all buttons on the page. If you
> hear that JAWS is on the browse button, you can press enter and browse to
> where your file is stored or type in the complete path and file name. The
> dialog looks just like an open dialog, so the same keystrokes would apply.
>
> Another way to locate the browse button is using the JAWS find function.
> Press Control+F and type in the word browse into the search field and
> press enter. JAWS should land on the browse button. Press escape, then
> press enter to activate the button.
>
> You could also try routing your JAWS cursor to the PC cursor. The JAWS
> cursor is basically the mouse pointer, so you could use it to find the
> browse button and then press the slash key on your numpad to simulate a
> left single click.
>
> One thing I've noticed, and I'm not sure if this is a bug with
> Bookshare.org or my system, but after I have selected my file, tab to
> Okay and press enter to simultaneously turn forms mode off and exit the
> browse dialog and then try reading what is in the file upload edit box
> that JAWS will not read anything until I move to the edit box and go into
> forms mode. As I said, I don't know if this is a Bookshare issue or not,
> but I don't have this issue when filling in forms on other sites.
>
> I'm sure you've gotten suggestions like this before, but if not, I thought
> I'd throw them out there in the hopes that they may be of some help.
> <smiles>
>
> If you need anything explained, just let me know. My E-mail is
> lisab12@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Lisa
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 4:16 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: how do I
>
>
>> Dear Ann, Gail Tom, and Booksharian Friends,
>>
>> I still haven't found a way to get to the browse button at the bottom of
>> the first page of the form when uploading a book I've validated.
>>
>> I'm using the latest version of JAWS and Windows XP.
>>
>> I was told by people who know what they're talking about to turn forms
>> field off when in the field where the file name goes, but every time I
>> try that the page vanishes and reappears with an error message telling me
>> I left the file field blank or something to that affect.
>>
>> The only way I can fill out that field is to use the sighted mouse to
>> click on browse. This takes me a long time because the cursor is hard for
>> me to see. I move the mouse around and around with my nose mashed against
>> the screen as my eye peers inch by inch up, down and over until I find
>> that cursor spot. When I move the cursor toward the browse box, I always
>> lose it as my vision can't track it. It can take Ten minutes or more of
>> this tedious eye and mouse game until I click on browse and with great
>> relief can go back to listening to JAWS to finish the form.
>>
>> I'm not complaining because I'm lucky to be able to tap that button one
>> way or another, but I'd love to know how I can help JAWS to find it for
>> me. Volunteers have actually done the forms off thing on my computer and
>> been mystified that it makes the page disappear because that technique
>> works fine on their computers.
>>
>> If anyone has any ideas about what I can do to submit or upload a book
>> relying completely on JAWS I'll be grateful.
>>
>> Always with love,
>>
>> Lissi
>> I've been told that I should turn forms
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Hawkins" <tjhawk1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:55 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: how do I
>>
>>
>>> Hi I'm not sure if anyone has responded to the browse problem. As a
>>> window-eyes user I can tell you that it's not difficult, just hit the
>>> tab key once more then hit the space bar to change the selected field to
>>> the brows button and begin tabbing to the look-in section and find what
>>> your looking for.Tom
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <mekawh@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Cc: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 1:57 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: how do I
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> That isn't Gail's problem, Meka. Her problem is that in System Access,
>>>> the screen reader she is using, the browse button for the Step Two page
>>>> does not show at all.
>>>>
>>>> In Jaws it works properly. In Window-eyes it shows up as an edit field
>>>> that seems to have two parts to it. So, Gail is wondering how to even
>>>> access the button let alone use it.
>>>>
>>>> Ann P.
>>>>
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