Sarah, is it possible that the books might not have the word copyright but do have the symbol? I've never seen a book without a copyright of some kind. Older books don't have ISBN numbers, but all the books I've ever seen do have copyright info. Sometimes it's very small, though. Although, now that I think about it, I think I saw some books at the bookstore today that didn't, or at least I didn't notice them. But they were business manuals published by certain companies. I imagine it's possible that sometimes certain kinds of books are not copyrighted -- the author or editor perhaps didn't care -- though I know that occasionally the publisher will copyright a book. Cindy --- Sarah Van Oosterwijck <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'd really like to know what to do about that > particular problem, > because I seem to find a lot of books that just > don't have the word > copyright in them even though they have the rest of > the standard > statements found in copyrighted material. The books > I have found were > certainly legal copyrighted material published in > the United States. > The books usually came from a library and were not > published so long ago > that the copyright would no longer apply. This just > seems to be > something some publishers neglect, and it is really > beginning to drive > me crazy. No source of book information cares about > the copyrights of > books and even less who the copyright holder might > be. Unless it is in > the book it just isn't available. If it is in the > book then it is > usually available from the copyright office, but > then you wouldn't need > to look up the information unless the scanner just > forgot to scan that > page. > I didn't realize that I would have to get someone to > check the front > matter of each book I pick up to see if it has a > standard copyright > notice before deciding to scan it. Until recently I > naively believed it > would always be there. > > The only benefit that has come from the trouble I > have had is that I can > assure everyone that google is definitely not just a > meta search engine. > It really does look at the entire page. :-) I know > this because when > you try to search for the word copyright along with > a book title the > only thing you are likely to find are the copyright > dates of the web > pages on which the book is being sold. LOL > > Sarah Van Oosterwijck > http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 2:41 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Finding a copyright > > > > Tracy, > > > > Sorry, but I struck out, too. > > > > I was able to find out that the book was > originally published in 1992, > > the > > author's real name is Ruth Glick, and that she > wrote it under the > > pseudonym > > Rebecca York. > > > > I wasn't able to find the copyright, though. I > checked > > www.copyright.gov, > > and the book does not appear in their online > records. I found 3 or 4 > > by her > > with Moon in the name, but not Bayou Moon. I > don't know if this means > > that > > it isn't officially copyrighted, or that they just > don't have it in > > their > > online records. > > > > I Googled for it and didn't find any copyright > information either. > > > > I also checked to see if my library has it, since > I'm going there > > later > > today. They don't have it, though. > > > > Maybe someone else can find it in their library > and look it up for > > you. > > > > Gerald > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of Tracy > > Carcione > > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:24 PM > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Finding a copyright > > > > > > I'm striking out today! I need to find the > copyright holder for > > "Bayou > > Moon". ISBN 0-373-22188-6. > > I tried Amazon, but I've *never* seen copyright > data there, and didn't > > today, either. I tried the Library of Congress, > but can't get past > > the > > search page. If someone can find the copyright > holder for this book, > > I'd > > really appreciate it, and, even more, I'd love to > know where you got > > it, > > so I could do it myself. > > Thanks. > > Tracy > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.16 - > Release Date: 5/24/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.16 - > Release Date: 5/24/2005 > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com