[bksvol-discuss] Re: Finding a copyright

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:31:08 -0700 (PDT)

Sarah, is it possible that the books might not have
the word copyright but do have the symbol? I've never
seen a book without a copyright of some kind.  Older
books don't have ISBN numbers, but all the books I've
ever seen do have copyright info. Sometimes it's very
small, though. Although, now that I think about it, I
think I saw some books at the bookstore today that
didn't, or at least I didn't notice them. But they
were business manuals published by certain companies.
I imagine it's possible that sometimes certain kinds
of books are not copyrighted -- the author or editor
perhaps didn't care -- though I know that occasionally
the publisher will copyright a book.

Cindy


--- Sarah Van Oosterwijck
<curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I'd really like to know what to do about that
> particular problem, 
> because I seem to find a lot of books that just
> don't have the word 
> copyright in them even though they have the rest of
> the standard 
> statements found in copyrighted material.  The books
> I have found were 
> certainly legal copyrighted material published in
> the United States. 
> The books usually came from a library and were not
> published so long ago 
> that the copyright would no longer apply.  This just
> seems to be 
> something some publishers neglect, and it is really
> beginning to drive 
> me crazy.  No source of book information cares about
> the copyrights of 
> books and even less who the copyright holder might
> be.  Unless it is in 
> the book it just isn't available.  If it is in the
> book then it is 
> usually available from the copyright office, but
> then you wouldn't need 
> to look up the information unless the scanner just
> forgot to scan that 
> page.
> I didn't realize that I would have to get someone to
> check the front 
> matter of each book I pick up to see if it has a
> standard copyright 
> notice before deciding to scan it.  Until recently I
> naively believed it 
> would always be there.
> 
> The only benefit that has come from the trouble I
> have had is that I can 
> assure everyone that google is definitely not just a
> meta search engine. 
> It really does look at the entire page. :-)  I know
> this because when 
> you try to search for the word copyright along with
> a book title the 
> only thing you are likely to find are the copyright
> dates of the web 
> pages on which the book is being sold. LOL
> 
> Sarah Van Oosterwijck
> http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 2:41 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Finding a copyright
> 
> 
> > Tracy,
> >
> > Sorry, but I struck out, too.
> >
> > I was able to find out that the book was
> originally published in 1992, 
> > the
> > author's real name is Ruth Glick, and that she
> wrote it under the 
> > pseudonym
> > Rebecca York.
> >
> > I wasn't able to find the copyright, though.  I
> checked 
> > www.copyright.gov,
> > and the book does not appear in their online
> records.  I found 3 or 4 
> > by her
> > with Moon in the name, but not Bayou Moon.  I
> don't know if this means 
> > that
> > it isn't officially copyrighted, or that they just
> don't have it in 
> > their
> > online records.
> >
> > I Googled for it and didn't find any copyright
> information either.
> >
> > I also checked to see if my library has it, since
> I'm going there 
> > later
> > today.  They don't have it, though.
> >
> > Maybe someone else can find it in their library
> and look it up for 
> > you.
> >
> > Gerald
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Tracy 
> > Carcione
> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:24 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Finding a copyright
> >
> >
> > I'm striking out today!  I need to find the
> copyright holder for 
> > "Bayou
> > Moon".  ISBN 0-373-22188-6.
> > I tried Amazon, but I've *never* seen copyright
> data there, and didn't
> > today, either.  I tried the Library of Congress,
> but can't get past 
> > the
> > search page.  If someone can find the copyright
> holder for this book, 
> > I'd
> > really appreciate it, and, even more, I'd love to
> know where you got 
> > it,
> > so I could do it myself.
> > Thanks.
> > Tracy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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