I agree that most books do have a copyright notice, but I really have
found those that do not. These books don't have a copyright symbol
either. I would see that, or some junk that would replace it if it were
there. For books I have scanned that didn't have a copyright I also
have the confirmation of my husband that there is nothing anywhere in
the book that could be considered the copyright notice. Still they say
that it is not legal to reproduce the book in any form without
permission from the publisher. Some of them even have ISBN numbers and
library of congress cataloguing information.
Just don't assume the scanner necessarily messed up if you some day find
a book without the word or symbol meaning copyright.
Sarah Van Oosterwijck http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
Sarah, is it possible that the books might not have the word copyright but do have the symbol? I've never seen a book without a copyright of some kind. Older books don't have ISBN numbers, but all the books I've ever seen do have copyright info. Sometimes it's very small, though. Although, now that I think about it, I think I saw some books at the bookstore today that didn't, or at least I didn't notice them. But they were business manuals published by certain companies. I imagine it's possible that sometimes certain kinds of books are not copyrighted -- the author or editor perhaps didn't care -- though I know that occasionally the publisher will copyright a book.
Cindy
--- Sarah Van Oosterwijck <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'd really like to know what to do about that particular problem, because I seem to find a lot of books that just don't have the word copyright in them even though they have the rest of the standard statements found in copyrighted material. The books I have found were certainly legal copyrighted material published in the United States. The books usually came from a library and were not published so long ago that the copyright would no longer apply. This just seems to be something some publishers neglect, and it is really beginning to drive me crazy. No source of book information cares about the copyrights of books and even less who the copyright holder might be. Unless it is in the book it just isn't available. If it is in the book then it is usually available from the copyright office, but then you wouldn't need to look up the information unless the scanner just forgot to scan that page. I didn't realize that I would have to get someone to check the front matter of each book I pick up to see if it has a standard copyright notice before deciding to scan it. Until recently I naively believed it would always be there.
The only benefit that has come from the trouble I have had is that I can assure everyone that google is definitely not just a meta search engine. It really does look at the entire page. :-) I know this because when you try to search for the word copyright along with a book title the only thing you are likely to find are the copyright dates of the web pages on which the book is being sold. LOL
Sarah Van Oosterwijck http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 2:41 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Finding a copyright
> Tracy,
>
> Sorry, but I struck out, too.
>
> I was able to find out that the book was
originally published in 1992,
> the
> author's real name is Ruth Glick, and that she
wrote it under the
> pseudonym
> Rebecca York.
>
> I wasn't able to find the copyright, though. I
checked
> www.copyright.gov,
> and the book does not appear in their online
records. I found 3 or 4
> by her
> with Moon in the name, but not Bayou Moon. I
don't know if this means
> that
> it isn't officially copyrighted, or that they just
don't have it in
> their
> online records.
>
> I Googled for it and didn't find any copyright
information either.
>
> I also checked to see if my library has it, since
I'm going there
> later
> today. They don't have it, though.
>
> Maybe someone else can find it in their library
and look it up for
> you.
>
> Gerald
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Tracy
> Carcione
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:24 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Finding a copyright
>
>
> I'm striking out today! I need to find the
copyright holder for
> "Bayou
> Moon". ISBN 0-373-22188-6.
> I tried Amazon, but I've *never* seen copyright
data there, and didn't
> today, either. I tried the Library of Congress,
but can't get past
> the
> search page. If someone can find the copyright
holder for this book,
> I'd
> really appreciate it, and, even more, I'd love to
know where you got
> it,
> so I could do it myself.
> Thanks.
> Tracy
>
>
>
>
>
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