[bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
- From: "Chela Robles" <cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 08:46:59 -0700
eah, no problem here all. I was just trying to decipher her question mark she
had given me, glad it is up in the clearing, sorry all.
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"To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you forever.
It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be sophisticated, but when you
get the two of them together in a way people can relate to, then I think you're
on to something. You want the sophistication to lie in the purity of the sound,
the beauty of the arrangements, and the quality of the performances."-Trumpeter
Chris Botti
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----- Original Message -----
From: robert tweedy
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:23 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
For now on I will put a space between the word and the first period and a
space after the last.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chela Robles
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:37 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
Thanks Evan, I feel appreciated I think. It was hard to try to explain it
so I tried.
--
"To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you
forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be sophisticated, but
when you get the two of them together in a way people can relate to, then I
think you're on to something. You want the sophistication to lie in the purity
of the sound, the beauty of the arrangements, and the quality of the
performances."-Trumpeter Chris Botti
--
Chela Robles
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Skype: jazzytrumpet
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----- Original Message -----
From: EVAN REESE
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:14 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
I note that in the example given in Chela's message:
"She went to … school."
the ellipsis character is surrounded by spaces.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: Emily Harrison
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:50 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
Um, thanks? Like I said, it's just what I learned in school. I think
we can all appreciate that grammatical rules are fluid, and change over time,
over long distances, etc.
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Chela Robles <cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Ellipsis (plural ellipses; from the Greek: ἔλλειψις, élleipsis,
"omission") is a mark or series of marks that usually indicate an intentional
omission of a word in the original text. An ellipsis can also be used to
indicate a pause in speech, an unfinished thought, or, at the end of a
sentence, a trailing off into silence (aposiopesis) (apostrophe and ellipsis
mixed). When placed at the end of a sentence, the ellipsis can also inspire a
feeling of melancholy longing. The ellipsis calls for a slight pause in speech.
The most common form of an ellipsis is a row of three periods or full
stops (...) or pre-composed triple-dot glyph (…). The usage of the em dash (—)
can overlap the usage of ellipsis.
The triple-dot punctuation mark is also called a suspension point,
points of ellipsis, periods of ellipsis, or colloquially, dot-dot-dot.In writing
The way the ellipsis is supposed to be written in the US is "..." per
Modern Language Association (MLA) standards. The use of ellipsis can either
mislead or insult, and the reader must rely on the good intentions of the
writer who uses them. An example of this ambiguity is "She went to … school."
In this sentence, "…" might represent the word "elementary". Alternatively, in
a usage more common in the 19th and early 20th centuries, ellipsis can be used
when a writer intentionally omits a specific proper noun, such as a location:
"Jan was born on ... Street in Warsaw." Omission of part of a quoted sentence
without indication by an ellipsis (or bracketed text) would mislead the
readers. For example, "She went to school," as opposed to "She went to
Broadmoor Elementary school."
An ellipsis may also imply an unstated alternative indicated by
context. For example, when Count Dracula says "I never drink … wine", the
implication is that he does drink something else, which in the context would be
blood.
In writing the speech of a character in fiction or nonfiction, the
ellipsis is sometimes used to represent an intentional silence of a character,
usually invoked to emphasize a character's irritation, appall, shock or disgust.
The style and use varies in the English language. In legal writing in
the United States, Rule 5.3 in the Bluebook citation guide governs the use of
ellipsis and requires a space before the first dot and between the two
subsequent dots. If an ellipsis ends the sentence, then there are three dots,
each separated by a space, followed by the final punctuation.
The Chicago Manual of Style suggests the use of an ellipsis for any
omitted word, phrase, line, or paragraph from within a quoted passage. There
are two commonly used methods of using ellipsis: one uses three dots for any
omission, while the second makes a distinction between omissions within a
sentence (using three dots: . . .) and omissions between sentences (using a
period and a space followed by three dots: . ...). An ellipsis at the end of a
sentence with no sentence following should be followed by a period (for a total
of four dots). The Modern Language Association (MLA) however, used to indicate
that an ellipsis must include spaces before and after each dot in all uses. If
an ellipsis is meant to represent an omission, square brackets must surround
the ellipsis to make it clear that there was no pause in the original quote: [
. . . ]. Currently, the MLA has removed the requirement of brackets in their
style handbooks. However, the use of brackets is still correct as it clears
confusion.
According to Robert Bringhurst's Elements of Typographic Style, the
details of typesetting ellipsis depend on the character and size of the font
being set and the typographer's preference. Bringhurst writes that a full space
between each dot is "another Victorian eccentricity." In most contexts, the
Chicago ellipsis is much too wide" — he recommends using flush dots, or
thin-spaced dots (up to one-fifth of an em), or the prefabricated ellipsis
character (Unicode U+2026, Latin entity …). Bringhurst suggests that
normally an ellipsis should be spaced fore-and-aft to separate it from the
text, but when it combines with other punctuation, the leading space disappears
and the other punctuation follows. He provides the following examples:
i … j k…. l…, l l, … l m…? n…..!
An ellipsis is also often used in mathematics to mean "and so forth".
In a list, between commas, or following a comma, a normal ellipsis is used, as
in:
To indicate the omission of values in a repeated operation, an
ellipsis raised to the center of the line is used between two operation symbols
or following the last operation symbol, as in:
The latter formula means the sum of all natural numbers from 1 to
100. However, it is not a formally defined mathematical symbol. Repeated
summations or products may similarly be denoted using capital sigma and capital
pi notation, respectively:
(see factorial)
Normally dots should only be used where the pattern to be followed is
clear, the exception being to show the indefinite continuation of an irrational
number such as:
.
Sometimes, it is useful to display a formula compactly, for example:
Another example is the set of zeros of the cosine function.
There are many related uses of the ellipsis in set notation.
The diagonal and vertical forms of the ellipsis are particularly
useful for showing missing terms in matrices, such as the size-n identity matrix
The use of ellipsis in mathematical proofs is often deprecated
because of the potential for ambiguity.
In some programming languages (including Perl, Ruby, Groovy, Haskell,
and Pascal), a shortened two-dot ellipsis is used to represent a range of
values given two endpoints; for example, to iterate through a list of integers
between 1 and 100 inclusive in Perl:
foreach (1..100)
Perl overloads the ".." operator in scalar context as a stateful
bistable Boolean test, roughly equivalent to "true while x but not yet y".[3]
In Perl6, the 3-character ellipsis is also known as the "yadda yadda yadda"
operator and, similarly to its linguistic meaning, serves as a "stand-in" for
code to be inserted later. In addition, an actual Unicode ellipsis character is
used to serve as a type of marker in a perl6 format string.[4]
In the C programming language, an ellipsis is used to represent a
variable number of parameters to a function. For example:
void func(const char* str, ...)
The above function in C could then be called with different types and
numbers of parameters such as:
func("input string", 5, 10, 15);
and
func("input string", "another string", 0.5);
As of version 1.5, Java has adopted this "varargs" functionality. For
example:
public int func(int num, String... strings)
In MATLAB, a three-character ellipsis is used to indicate line
continuationmaking the sequence of lines
x = [ 1 2 3 ...
4 5 6 ];
semantically equivalent to the single line
x = [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 ];
Most programming languages other than Perl6 require the ellipsis to
be written as a series of periods; a single (Unicode) ellipsis character cannot
be used.
Ellipses are often used in an operating system's taskbars or web
browser tabs to indicate longer titles than will fit. Hovering the cursor over
the tab often shows a pop-up balloon of the full title. When many programs are
open, or during a "tab explosion" in web browsing, the tabs may be reduced in
size so much that no characters from the actual titles show, and ellipses take
up all the space besides the program icon or favicon.
In many user interface guidelines, a "..." after the name of a
command implies that the user will need to provide further information, for
example in a subsequent dialog box, before the action can be completed. A
typical example is the Save As... command, which after being clicked will
usually require the user to enter a file name, as opposed to Save where the
file will usually be saved under the existing name of the file. Also, an
ellipsis character after a status message signifies that an operation may take
some time, for example as in "Downloading updates...".
The ellipsis is one of the favorite constructions of internet chat
rooms, and has evolved over the past ten years into a staple of text-messaging.
Though an ellipsis is technically complete with three periods (...), its rise
in popularity as a "trailing-off" or "silence" indicator, particularly in
mid-20th century comic strip and comic book prose writing, has led to expanded
uses online. It has been used in new ways online, sometimes at the end of a
message "to signal that the rest of the message is forthcoming." Today,
extended ellipsis of two, seven, ten, or even dozens of periods have become
common constructions in internet chat rooms and text messages.[this citation is
incomplete] Often the extended ellipses indicate an awkward silence or a "no
comment" response to the previous statement made by the other party. They are
sometimes used jokingly or for emphatic confusion about what the other person
has said.
They are also used to infer that someone or something is stupid or
lacking in intelligence.
"Elliptical commas", or commas used in plurality for the effect of
ellipsis or multiple ellipsis, have also grown in popularity online—though no
style journal or manual has yet embraced them.
In computing, several ellipsis characters have been codified,
depending on the system used.
In the Unicode standard, there are the following characters:
Character Unicode code point
For general use Horizontal ellipsis … U+2026
Laotian ellipsis ຯ U+0EAF
Mongolian ellipsis ᠁ U+1801
Thai ellipsis ฯ U+0E2F
For use in mathematics Vertical ellipsis ⋮ U+22EE
Midline horizontal ellipsis ⋯ U+22EF
Up right diagonal ellipsis ⋰ U+22F0
Down right diagonal ellipsis ⋱ U+22F1
In Chinese and sometimes in Japanese, ellipsis characters are done by
entering two consecutive horizontal ellipsis (U+2026). In vertical texts, the
application should rotate the symbol accordingly.
Unicode recognizes[citation needed] a series of three period
characters (U+002E) as equivalent to the horizontal ellipsis character.
In HTML, the horizontal ellipsis character may be represented by the
entity reference … (since HTML 4.0). Alternatively, in HTML, XML, and
SGML, a numeric character reference such as … or … can be used.
In the TeX typesetting system, the following types of ellipsis are
available:
Character TeX markup
Lower ellipsis \ldots
Centred ellipsis \cdots
Diagonal ellipsis \ddots
Vertical ellipsis \vdots
The horizontal ellipsis character also appears in the following older
character maps:
a.. in Windows-1250—Windows-1258 and in IBM/MS-DOS Code page 874,
at code 85 (hexadecimal)
b.. in Mac-Roman and Mac-CentEuro at code C9 (hexadecimal)
c.. in Ventura International encoding at code C1 (hexadecimal)
As with all characters, especially those outside of the ASCII range,
the author, sender and receiver of an encoded ellipsis must be in agreement
upon what bytes are being used to represent the character. Naive text
processing software may improperly assume that a particular encoding is being
used, resulting in mojibake.
The Chicago Style Q&A recommends to avoid the use of … (U+2026)
character in manuscripts and to place three periods plus two nonbreaking spaces
(. . .) instead. Note the Chicago Style Q&A states in the same answer that “the
numeric entity for an ellipsis is not formally defined for standard HTML”,
which contradicts to explicitly given "…" as a numeric reference to the
horizontal ellipsis character in HTML 4 standard. This misbelief of the Chicago
Style Q&A may have roots in long lasting confusion between Windows-1252 on one
hand and Unicode and ISO 8859-1 on another.
In Abstract Syntax Notation One (ASN.1), the ellipsis is used as
extension marker to indicate the possibility of type extensions in the future
revisions of a protocol specification. In a type constraint expression like A
::= INTEGER (0..127, ..., 256..511) ellipsis is used to separate extension root
from extension additions. Definition of type A in version 1 system of the form
A ::= INTEGER (0..127, ...) and definition of type A in version 2 system of the
form A ::= INTEGER (0..127, ..., 256..511) constitute extension series of the
same type A in different versions of the same specification. The ellipsis can
also be used in compound type definitions to separate the set of fields
belonging to the extension root from the set of fields constituting extension
additions. Here is an example: B ::= SEQUENCE { a INTEGER, b INTEGER, ..., c
INTEGER }
Use ellipsis marks when omitting a word, phrase, line, paragraph, or
more from a quoted passage.
NOTE: To create ellipsis marks with a PC, type the period three times
and the spacing will be automatically set, or press Ctrl-Alt and the period
once.
The Three-dot Method
There are many methods for using ellipses. The three-dot method is
the simplest and is appropriate for most general works and many scholarly ones.
The three- or four-dot method and an even more rigorous method used in legal
works require fuller explanations that can be found in other reference books.
Rule 1. Use no more than three marks whether the omission
occurs in the middle of a sentence or between sentences.
Example:
Original sentence:
The regulation states, "All agencies must document
overtime or risk losing federal funds."
Rewritten using ellipses:
The regulation states, "All agencies must document
overtime..."
Note: With the three-dot method, you may leave out
punctuation such as commas that were in the original.
Example: Original sentence from Lincoln's Gettysburg
Address:
"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought
forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated
to the proposition that all men are created equal."
Rewritten using ellipses:
"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought
forth...a new nation, conceived in liberty..."
Rule 2. When you omit one or more paragraphs within a
long quotation, use ellipsis marks after the last punctuation mark that ends
the preceding paragraph.
I hope this helps.
--
"To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you
forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be sophisticated, but
when you get the two of them together in a way people can relate to, then I
think you're on to something. You want the sophistication to lie in the purity
of the sound, the beauty of the arrangements, and the quality of the
performances."-Trumpeter Chris Botti
--
Chela Robles
AIM and E-Mail: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx
Skype: jazzytrumpet
WindowsLive Messenger: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxxxx
Facebook Profile:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=690550695
Cell: 1-925-250-5955
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----- Original Message -----
From: Emily Harrison
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:00 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
I believe it is considered grammatically incorrect to have spaces
before or after ellipses, or at least that's what I learned in school! I
definitely eliminate all spaces before, after and in between ellipses when
proofing.
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Emily Harrison
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