[bksvol-discuss] Re: Does anyone know...

  • From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 03:25:50 -0400

Dear Mike,

Thank you so much. I feel lightened, liberated, relieved!

For once I'm thrilled that I couldn't sleep and uncharacteristically checked email past the middle of the night!

Your instructions were so clear that my first attempt to follow them worked!

I got into trouble by attempting to fix a checked out book which came to me in columns, a first.

I've always been advised by successful computer problem solvers to work through the menus to find answers. By the time I found the answer to vanish the columns, I'd unwittingly invited in the normals. How could a person intuit that by changing a zero to a one they would get a column of endless normals? I had tried so many things that I went round and round in the menus and couldn't remember what I'd changed to cause them.

Reading the computer screen visually is very taxing for my eyes and makes for big, bad, banging, bury-your-head-in-the-sand-headaches. After trying for ages at least every other day and not correcting the mess I'd made, I'm jubilant to have the normals out of my proofreading life.

Now I need to get up the nerve to check out Show No Fear, a very well written legal drama, the 12th in the Nina Reilly series. It's one of the books I've proofread which Bookshare approved since the normals showed up to hound me. I'll be very glad if the bookshare tools took them out. If it didn't, then I have some explaining to do to Carrie as I ask for a few books back for repairs.

I'm proofreading The Good Life, the 5th in the Matt Minough police procedural series set in Dublin Ireland. It is so realistic, embarrassingly, interestingly, sadly and occasionally pleasingly realistic. Not for the faint of heart, but great for people genuinely curious to know the fabric of contemporary Ireland, its rhetoric, it's people on both sides of the law and success in life. It's gritty reading , but I admire Matt. I'm seeing Irish life as tourists never could and I'm so glad to have an unencumbered file to work with which I hope will be a credit to Evan's excellent scan and Bookshare's ever improving collection. I'll be doing book 4 in this series, All Souls, scanned by Jim Baugh, next, followed by book 6, another of Evan's scans. There will be 10 books in the completed series.

Thank you so much for taking time to help a volunteer in need!!! thank you for freeing up my time to proofread instead of blundering in frustration in Word's menus.

Always with love,

Lissi

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:38 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Does anyone know...


Lissi,

I found it (eureka)! I have never seen or heard of anything like this before. I tried to search online and in word help before to no avail. But, I decided to give it one more go today and I'm not even sure how I got to the right place in the word help.

What you are seeing is called the style area (yes, back to those pesky styles). I have no idea how one could accidentally turn it on, but here is how to turn it off. Go to the tools menue, all the way to the bottom is options, then select the view tab, and near the bottom of that window it says style area width. Next to that is a little text box. Select whatever is in there, then type 0. Then hit return (or click ok) and your Normals should be gone (at least I made them appear by putting 1 in there and disappear by putting 0 back in).

Misha

Estelnalissi wrote:
Dear Mike and Booksharian Friends,

I'm repeating a question I asked a week or so ago because I haven't figured out a solution. In case it would help, I've investigated the answers in this thread, but my problem remains.

When working in Word 2003, there is a vertical line portioning off about a tenth of the screen. In that tall, slim area the word Normal appears over and over again strung down every page of RTF files I get from the check out page, new documents I start, and all of my old, saved word documents. I've wandered around the menus and can't identify a way to get rid of this useless column of Normal's.

On the plus side, those normal's don't seem to change what I'm doing. it has occurred to me to wonder if they are in the files I check in when I'm finished proofreading a book. Jaws isn't reading them with the PC or jaws cursors, , but that could be because I don't know how to get the cursor into that space.

I would be very thankful to make this phenomenon vanish.

Always with love,

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:19 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Does anyone know...


This is one of Word's auto formatting tricks. I've pretty much turned off all the autoformatting because most of them interfere with proofing for bookshare. Sadly, there is no all encompassing, turn off auto formatting button. You go under the tools menu, then auto correct options, which gives you a dialog with a bunch of tabs, each of which displays a page of check boxes. You uncheck a box to remove a feature. These are things like change straight quotes to smart quotes, change 1st to 1 with the st superscript, change 1/2 to the single symbol version of 1/2. And one of these just says borders. I'm pretty sure this is the one that turns three asterisks to a line that you can't delete. You can however select the area around the line, go to the format menu, select borders and shading, then in the dialog that comes up, select the box that indicates no borders (sometimes you have to select a border, then select the no border to get this to work, I don't know why). That should eliminate the line.

If there are keyboard equivalents for all this mess they would have to be long and complicated (as my description of how I do it as a sighted person is long and complicated).

Hope this helps someone.

Misha

Valerie Maples wrote:
Hi, Pamela!

What you have is when you type three asterisks and hit enter. You can undo it immediately with CTRL Z, but otherwise you need to copy and paste the page in to a plain text notepad file and then copy above it and paste into the original document and then the bottom, with a blank line between and return to type the three asterisks.

I would love to find a simpler way and am more than open to suggestions if others have better workarounds.

Thanks!
Valerie


On Jun 17, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Pamela Hoffard wrote:


    Does anyone know what this square-dotted line is?  When I put my
    cursor over it, it gives me a double line with an arrow above and
    below the lines?  I'm using Word 2007 to do the proofing.  I
    can't delete it the normal ways and I have all formatting marks
    turned on.


    Has anybody encountered this before??


    This is what it looks like:


    We'll be waiting a long time for that perfect husband, and we'll
    be awfully disappointed during the waiting.

    Here’s the difference:

    ***

    You wish for a relationship

    you dream of a husband

    you long for a perfect man.

    ***

    You wish for some cash

    you dream of more money

    you long for enough money to take away all your problems


    Thanks for any help,


    Pam





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