[bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:03:08 -0800 (PST)
Thanks for your comments, Ann. So where there's a
mixed group of children looking at something--I seem
to remember a bus for some reason in one of the
earlier children's books I did--may Pickles for
Pittsburgh of some such-in addition to stating the
ethnicity of the non-Caucasians, I suppose I must also
describe the ethnicity of the Caucasians.
BTW, what's Politically Correct these days? I was
saying African-American but now my most PC daughter
says it's o.k. to say Black. My Black friends and
colleagues never did like the term African-American;
we're Americans, they said. Of course, they, like I,
are older, and grew up when Negro was the preferred
term--but they prefer Black to African- or
Afro-American. I prefer not to describe people, when
talking about someone, by ethnicity but by other
physical characteristics or personality traits, but
sometimes it is necessary. smile I wonder if that's a
characteristic of people my age. Dan, is it you who
are about my age and who was a child in the 40's? I
remember one of you men is, but I'm not sure of the
name.
G. Cindy
--- Ann Parsons <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Grandma, I think you're doing just fine. For
> children and adults who
> are blind, and especially for those of us who were
> born blind,
> descriptions of pictures should be as detailed as
> you want to make
> them. Use color. This is a good learning
> experience for kids because
> they have to know about color. They have to be able
> to understand the
> meaning, the intellectual meaning of blue or purple
> or yellow. they
> also need to understand, in simple terms about
> perspective, that things
> look smaller if they are farther away, much as a
> sound is fainter if it
> is far away. They need to understand the difference
> between background
> and foreground too. Like a person may be the main
> feature of a
> picture, but that person is standing on a beach,
> back to the ocean, and so on.
>
> As for not mentioning the ethnicity of the children
> in the pictures,
> Grandma, that's like saying you won't tell a kid
> that there's a brown
> or a black or a pokadotted dog in a picture. A
> sighted kid is going to
> see an Afro-American kid and is going to recognize
> the ethnicity. He
> is going to see a blond girl with blue eyes, or a
> Chinese boy with
> almond shaped eyes and the slant that they have.
> Sighted kids see this
> and they are taught to recognize what they see. It
> is part of the
> identification process. Think you may be confusing
> description with
> value judgments. You can say, I see three
> Afro-American people walking
> up the street. There is a mother, a father and a
> little girl in a
> bright pink dress. That places no value judgment on
> what you see at
> all, it's just description. If, on the other hand
> you added an
> evaluation to the description, e.g. that blond man
> looks nice. That
> dark man looks bad. Then, you'd have a problem.
> Data is data. What
> the human mind does with that data is its problem.
>
> <smiling> Now, if you're blind and you don't have a
> describer handy,
> you can really get yourself into trouble. Here's a
> graphic example.
> Our Secretary of State is Condoleezza Rice. Well, I
> heard the name, I
> must have read it in the online newspapers, but I
> invisioned a tall,
> Scandinavian looking person with long blond hair and
> so on. I only
> found out a couple of years ago that Condoleezza
> Rice is Afro-American.
> I was totally blown away! I mean, I was completely
> surprised. So, if
> you think that alerting kids to what ethnicity the
> children in the
> pictures are doesn't matter, it does. So, just
> describe. Don't
> evaluate, just describe. You'll do just fine!
>
> Ann P.
>
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