[bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books

  • From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:02:00 -0800


I take it that when you use those books, the children have a braille-print
copy or just a print copy with pictures depending on the situation?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:09 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books


I use the books in my teaching.  One of the things that young children
learn
to do is draw conclusions from the pictures they see.  As a blind teacher,
if I can ask the students, "what do you see, do you see, that say Aurthor
is
going into the Girls room" then the students can draw conclusions.

That is what I use the books for, or to share in a read a loud with my
students or  my niece.  A lot of the kids love being the print book page
turner, smile.  so it works.

I like the descriptions and am happy when the people include them.

Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
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limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
- Helen Keller

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:45 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books


For what it's worth, I think books for very young children would have to
be
read by blind parents because the books would be in grade II braille and I
don't think little ones would appreciate reading in synthetic speech. And
if
I'm right, I don't think really young children who are sighted would
appreciate a book without pictures, even if there were written
descriptions,
and I doubt if they were blind the written descriptions pictures would
mean
much to them. I know this sounds negative and it is why I have never been
enthusiastic about children's books where pictures are so important. I
know
of at least two sources where books have both braille, print and the
pictures with their descriptions which I consider to be far more
appropriate
for young children. Bookshare doesn't need to try to fill every niche in
my
opinion. I'm expecting a lot of opposition to this opinion, however.
----- Original Message ----- From: Jamie Yates, CPhT
 To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 3:07 PM
 Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Describing Pictures In Children's Books


 And sometimes, too, Cindy, you don't know a person's ethnicity just from
their color. Not all people who are black are "African-American".

 I ask myself the same questions all of the time when I have a children's
book, Cindy. I could easily spend more time describing pictures than
scanning or proofing the rest of the book. How much is enough? How much is
too much? I don't think I've ever stated the color of the people in a
picture before because I usually feel like it's not important. But Ann (I
think it was Ann) made a good point about that being important
information.

 And Lissi made a good point about the descriptions being at the same
reading level as the book. I've never considered that before.


 Jamie in Michigan
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