[bksvol-discuss] Re: Credit Suggestion

  • From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 19:26:49 -0400

Yes, if it doesn't quite sound right one can stop and check to see if the punctuation scanned right, but, frankly, if it didn't the mistake is almost always more glaring. That is, an exclamation mark might scan as a 1 or an n followed by an apostrophe might scan as an f. It would be rare that an unspoken punctuation mark would scan as another unspoken punctuation mark.



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----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Smith" <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 7:16 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Credit Suggestion


True on bullets, which is why we are told to replace them with
asterisks. Hopefully all proofers are doing this. I would much prefer to
proof with braille. If I could only afford a Braille display or
notetaker with Braille. I have my screen reader set to read math and
miscellaneous punctuation, as that seems to be where the biggest
problems are. This setting includes quotes, apostrophes, those fraction
symbols, bullets, etc. About the only things it doesn't cover is
periods, comas, question marks and exclamation marks. The basic
punctuation. If something doesn't sound like it flows quite right, I use
my arrow keys to check and see if there is something with punctuation
that is messing it up. It was very distracting at first, but I did get
used to it.


Melissa Smith


On 5/7/2010 6:06 PM, Andromache wrote:
Yes, the symbols for the fractions do not show up well at all on a display. Neither do bullets.

Andromache

P.S. How do those with no Braille display do proofing? Set the screen reader to all punctuation? I prefer Braille, because I like tactile feedback and much prefer to see words than to be read to. Also helps to keep my spelling skills sharp. But I find that all punctuation is a very distracting way to read.

On 5/7/2010 5:35 AM, Debby Franson wrote:
Hi Jill and everyone!

Whenever I have submitted a cookbook, I have made sure all fractions are correct. I have wondered how accurate other Bookshare cookbooks were until joining this list when I have found that many volunteers take care to correct the scanos, since fractions are usually horrible for OCR to get right.

The first cookbook I downloaded years ago was "The I Hate to Cook" cookbook. The fractions were not written as 1/2 and 1/4 but the higher ASCII characters for those fractions, so, unless I was left' or right-arrowing over those fractions, Window-Eyes ignored them entirely, so I hope that people always use the 1/2 and 1/4 form of the fractions so they are read rather than ignored by synthetic speech.. I suspect those higher ASCII characters don't show up well on a braille display either. Am I right? Here they are to test:

¼ ½

Debby

At 09:46 PM 5/6/2010, Jill O'Connell wrote
I hope you sent your suggestion to the volunteer coordinator where it might possibly do some good. It is really disappointing to download a recipe book and find it virtually unreadable.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>Melissa Smith
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Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:03 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Credit Suggestion

If only the outsourcers did as fine a job as many of the scanners and proofers on this list. I don't know how many books I've read, that were done by the outsourcers, that were poorly done. I do make quality reports when warranted. Not to mention the fact that, I was told a few months ago by Bookshare staff, that the outsourcers wouldn't be working on any more cookbooks.


Melissa Smith
On 5/6/2010 5:31 PM, Jamie Yates, CPhT wrote:
One idea is to let the more complicated books be handled by staff/outsourcers.

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