[bksvol-discuss] Re: Creating a Process for Creating Guidelines
- From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
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- Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:32:59 EDT
I don't know how my name got on that list unless there is another Roger,
but I don't want to be on it. I have taken on too many obligations as it is
and don't want to add another one right now.
"I find
capitalism repugnant. It is filthy, it is gross, it is alienating... because it
causes war, hypocrisy and competition." Fidel Castro
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[bksvol-discuss] Re: Creating a Process for Creating Guidelines
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Hi All,
Great to see the responses to this email! Overnight we've had 10
experienced Bookshare volunteers step forward to form this team of
Advisors/Shapers --
or whatever they might choose to name themselves (smile). Ten is a great
size to begin with -- not too small and not too unwieldy either.
The 10 volunteers are: Judy S., Christina, Amber, Mayrie, Chanelle,
Elizabeth, Shelley, Bob, Evan and Roger. (If anyone else wrote in who I
inadvertently
missed, please let me know).
I'll be in touch with this team off-list today so we can get some of the
logistical details underway and work out a process for getting started. As
things
develop we'll be sure to update the Volunteer list (and the blog) so people
can stay in touch with how things develop.
Nancy thanks for your comments and suggestions. We'll have the team take
them into consideration for sure.
With appreciation for this new team that's ready to go the extra mile to
make volunteering with Bookshare continually smoother!
All good things,
Pavi
Pavi Mehta
Volunteer Coordinator, Bookshare
Benetech
480 S. California Ave., Suite 201
Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609 USA
Phone: +1 650 644-3459
pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx
www.benetech.org
The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chanelle Hill
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:36 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Creating a Process for Creating Guidelines
I agree that instructions for Word, Openbook, and Kurzweil would be
helpful. When new volunteers begin proofing and scanning, they
frequently have questions about validating and scanning with the
devices and programs they have. At least, I had questions and I have
seen several posts to this list asking for help proofreading. To make
the volunteer manual less intimidating, there could be a separate
document detailing how to use each program. It would be helpful to
have a section on proofing with the BrailleNote, Pacmate, and/or other
devices volunteers use for editing documents as well. Alternatively,
instructions could also be appended to the end of the manual with
different headings for each program. The volunteer manual could give
Bookshare's proofreading requirements and reference the document or
sections containing more specific instructions for those who want
them. A separate document or appendices would help those who want to
submit the very best book they possibly can. The manual and
Bookshare's requirements--especially pertaining to pagination and
numbering--were a little confusing for me at first, so having
instructions for how to do common proofreading tasks might clarify
things for others.
Maybe there could be an email list for new volunteers that
specifically discusses proofreading and scanning. We could still keep
this list for announcing wish list requests, items that are being
scanned, newly submitted books, and asking one another for help with
issues that come up with specific books. Maybe two lists might be
time-consuming or too much; however, new volunteers could join the
proofreading and scanning list, which would probably have fewer
emails, so that they would not need to be bombarded with tons of
messages. Some of the people on the advisory committee could join the
list to facilitate discussion and assist new volunteers. New
volunteers could be automatically signed up for the scanning and
proofing list to ensure that the situation with NW will not be
repeated.
I am sorry for my verbose email and for bringing up two different
topics. By the way, I never received the email or newsletter detailing
font requirements for submissions.
I would be interested in joining the volunteer advisory committee.
Chanelle
On 6/10/09, Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx <Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I can see a definite value to having these suggestions incorporated into
> the manual. However, thinking back to almost a year ago when I first
became
> a
> volunteer, if I had read a manual that long an complicated I think I
might
> have been intimidated into backing out. If I saw a lot of instructions
> dealing with programs and equipment I did not have I might have decided
that
> I was
> unable to volunteer at all.
>
> "I find
> capitalism repugnant. It is filthy, it is gross, it is alienating...
because
> it
> causes war, hypocrisy and competition." Fidel Castro
>
> The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com/txtindex.shtml Pathfinder Press:
> http://www.pathfinderpress.com
> Granma International: http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html
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> As an Openbook user, and someone who has had four books rejected, I
concur.
> Robert
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>>>> "Nancy Martin" <nancyam@xxxxxxxxxxx> 6/9/2009 10:03 PM >>>
> Hi Pavi and list,
> One presumably change which should be made in the manual is that books
are
> initially checked for fourteen days and not 30 as the manual states.
>
> I personally would like to see program-specific sections in the manual.
> For example, a section on using MS Word to proof books. The section
might
> include
> a checklist type approach with instructions for accomplishing those
tasks.
> For example, 1. check and fix fonts with appropriate instructions. 2.
> taking
> out paragraph breaks with Word instructions. This would help proofers
make
> sure they remembered to do all these things before submitting a book.
> Another
> set of instructions would be written for OpenBook, Kurzweil 1000, etc.
>
> I hope I'm making some sense.
> Just my two cents worth,
> Nancy Martin
> Oklahoma
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pavi Mehta
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 4:06 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Creating a Process for Creating
Guidelines
>
> That's great to hear Christina! It's definitely possible to have you be
> on the team. Judy S. has also volunteered to be a part of it. As more
> feedback
> comes in we will keep everyone posted.
>
>
> All good things,
>
> Pavi
>
>
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christina
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:03 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Creating a Process for Creating
Guidelines
>
>
> Hi, Pavi.
>
> This guideline shapers group is a wonderful idea.
>
> I'd like to be included on this team if that's possible.
>
> Christina
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Pavi Mehta
>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Cc: carrie.k@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 4:26 PM
>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Creating a Process for Creating Guidelines
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
> As you know the recent guidelines that went out on Page Numbering
have
> generated some understandable concern and confusion among the volunteers.
> Some
> of you have written in to staff with detailed emails articulating those
> areas of concern and where the guidelines appear more inconvenient than
> helpful.
> Others have expressed their opinions on the list. Carrie and I have had
> several discussions recently on how best to address these concerns and
> modify
> the
> guidelines so that they serve as a tool and not a hindrance. As hands-on
> volunteers all of your input is valuable and we want the guidelines to
> reflect
> the best practices and collective wisdom of the volunteer community.
>
>
> Regarding page numbers Carrie will send out a note shortly to clarify
> some of the areas of confusion and concern and explain how the guidelines
> for
> this will be implemented. Bottom line is that we do understand the wide
> variety of challenges volunteers face with including page numbers in
books,
> and
> we're glad to have had your feedback. We intend hereon for this guideline
> to be implemented with a large degree of flexibility - and will be
rewriting
> the guidelines to clearly reflect the difference between page number
> requirements for educational books and other submissions.
>
>
> Moving forward though, for us one of the overarching questions that
the
> Page Number issue brings up is:
>
>
> What is the most efficient and effective way for Bookshare to do the
> following:
>
>
> 1. Identify volunteer areas that need guidelines
>
> 2. Draft guidelines and have them reviewed by a small pool of
> volunteers(in a sort of beta phase)
>
> 3. Finalize and share these guidelines among the greater
> volunteer community
>
>
> Ideally, Carrie and I feel that volunteers should have a leading and
> more transparent role to play in steps 1 and 2 above.
>
> Here is a suggested approach, that it would be great to get your
input
> on:
>
>
> 1. Form a self-selected team of "Bookshare Guideline Shapers"
(we
> can think of a better name down the line- smile). The Guideline Shapers
are
> Bookshare volunteers who step forward to help identify, draft and sound
out
> missing guidelines. Even if something is brought to staff attention
> regarding
> a missing guideline, we would turn it over initially to this group with
our
> suggestions if any.
>
>
> 2. The Guideline Shapers would decide on areas that need
> guidelines, work on an initial draft of these guidelines and then send
them
> over to
> Carrie/me for review from the Bookshare staff perspective. The Guideline
> Shapers would go over any edits from us and come up with a revised
> guideline.
> They would then solicit feedback on the guideline from the volunteer list
> before making any final tweaks to it.
>
>
> 3. Once the guideline has been finalized, I will incorporate it
> in the Volunteer Manual, and ensure that it is announced on the volunteer
> blog
> as well as on the volunteer discussion list. (We will create a separate
> section of the manual for Updates to the Manual so that it is easy for
> people
> to
> keep up with the changes).
>
>
>
> Participation from the volunteer community while shaping policy, we
> feel is key and we think this approach could be a really invigorating way
of
> facilitating
> the creation of useful guidelines from the inside-out. Of course we would
> be more than glad to help with the logistics of setting up a group alias
and
> other etcs for Guideline Shapers, and to provide assistance wherever we
> can. We would love your feedback on this approach as well as to know if
any
> of
> you are interested in being part of such a team.
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
>
> Pavi & Carrie
>
>
> Pavi Mehta
>
> Volunteer Coordinator, Bookshare
>
>
> Benetech
>
> 480 S. California Ave., Suite 201
>
> Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609 USA
>
> Phone: +1 650 644-3459
>
>
> pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
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