[bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie's Scans And Word Weirdness
- From: "Gerald Hovas" <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:36:20 -0500
I've heard that the tools handle section breaks, but I haven't tested that
out. I've been replacing them with page breaks-even though that's more time
consuming-simply because what FineReader produces is inconsistent.
Sometimes there's a section break after the page number or chapter heading,
and sometimes there isn't. Another reason is that even though I've heard
that the tools do support them, I have my doubts as to how well they support
them. If they simply treat them all as a section break, next page-which is
how Word labels the ones which specify a page break-then they'll end up with
the same issue that we are having. So far I've been playing it safe and
replacing them instead of jumping in there and seeing what will result if I
leave them in.
I've got this on my list of things to talk to Bookshare about since we've
recently learned that WordPad discards section breaks.
HTH
Gerald
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tom hawkins
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:50 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie's Scans And Word Weirdness
Hi Sue, That's a good question. As I remember it Bookshare sees the
section-breaks the same as a page-break - so will there be too many
page-breaks? Interesting. Maybe Geraldor one of the other techno guys will
know. Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: siss52 <mailto:siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie's Scans And Word Weirdness
A long time ago, I remember Donna wrote a post saying she does not change
section breaks to page breaks when she validates in Word. So my question
is, would it be okay to just leave them as section breaks? The pages are
numbered.
Sue S.
----- Original Message -----
From: tom hawkins <mailto:tjhawk1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:34 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie's Scans And Word Weirdness
Hi Carrie, Actually there are three types of section-breaks that Word
recognizes . but haven't seen the third type show up any where yet. Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Carrie Karnos <mailto:ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:45 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie's Scans And Word Weirdness
I was planning on telling the whole list what I found. Sure wish Word could
distinguish between the 2 types of section breaks. That would make life
much easier!
Carrie
tom hawkins <tjhawk1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Carrie, Would you mind alerting me also of your results? I've been
encountering trouble with Fine-Reader 8 also. I don't know if it's me but
I've been getting too much junk. Went back to omni-page 15 and almost
perfect scans, even though much slower. Thanks Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Carrie Karnos <mailto:ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:47 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie's Scans And Word Weirdness
Hi Monica,
Sorry to hear about the problems with my scans. I was about to say that
nothing changed at the office 3-4 months ago, but I'm not sure that's true.
I started using version 8 of Finereader instead of version 7 several months
ago, but I'd guess it's 6 months or so. I wonder if that's what has caused
the difference. If you give me the name of a book with the problem, I'll
run the .tif file through Finereader 7 and see if I can spot any differences
in the output between the 2 versions of Finereader. Or I can find a short
book at the office and run a check myself. Will let you know what I find
out. Maybe I will have to go back to using Finereader 7...
Sorry! Carrie
Monica Willyard <plumlipstick@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi. I'm writing to ask for help. Lately when I take one of Carrie's
scans, I keep running into the same problem. When I get the rtf
file, it has section breaks as always. However, when I use the find
and replace feature and replace ^b with ^m it makes 2 page breaks for
every section break that used to be there, and column breaks start
showing up where there were none before I do this replacement. This
only happens with Carrie's recent scans. I tried an older scan done
by Carrie, and it worked perfectly. This didn't start happening till
about 2 or 3 months ago. Before that, this find and replace thing
worked just fine, and I validated 30 or 40 of Carrie's books. Does
anyone know what I'm dealing with and what I can do to fix it? I
haven't applied any updates to Office XP. Am I doing something wrong
and just don't know it? Once I change the section breaks to page
breaks, sometimes the page number and header will have a page break
above it and then right below it so that a book of 500 pages ends up
being over 900 pages with these breaks. I am seriously stumped. Can
any of you help?
Monica Willyard
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