I thin k it was Lori, nut I said I'd get it from the library and scan it
so they don't have to buy it.
Cindy
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--- On Wed, 2/17/10, Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: But they were good to their mothers
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 10:44 PM
> Hi Cindy!
>
> Okay. I think it will be a good read.
>
> Was it you, Mike who was going to buy the book to
> scan? You can put a hold
> on it for me when it's ready, please.
>
> Debby
>
> At 10:11 PM 2/15/2010, Cindy wrote
> >Go ahead, Debbie. You'll be able to do it a lot more
> quickly than I, and
> >hubby and I can read it. It's i my branch, supposedly,
> and he's going to
> >get t tomorrow. .If it's not there, I'll put in a
> request for it.
> >Cindy
> >
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> >
> >
> >--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: But they were good
> to their mothers
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 1:05 PM
> > > Hi Cindy!
> > >
> > > Since you offered first, you can still have "But
> He Was
> > > Good to His Mother:
> > > The Lives and Crimes of Jewish Gangsters", or
> i'll do
> > > it. It's entirely up
> > > to you, but I know you're busy with other books,
> and I
> > > don't take on a
> > > whole stack at once.
> > >
> > > Debby
> > >
> > > At 08:32 PM 2/14/2010, Cindy wrote
> > > >I'd proof it eventually, but I have 3 to do
> first. I'd
> > > do it before the
> > > >4th in my pile
> > > >Cindy
> > > >
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> below
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >Books Being Scanned List:
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Larry Lumpkin <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Larry Lumpkin <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: But they
> were good
> > > to their mothers
> > > > In-reply-to: <75a7.f3030b3.3899d129@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 6:07
> PM
> > > > > Hi Debbie. I did a
> > > > > look-up on amazon and found this
> title:
> > > > >
> > > > > But He Was Good to His Mother : The
> Lives and
> > > Crimes of
> > > > > Jewish Gangsters
> > > > > (Paperback)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this the book in question? I
> might buy
> > > it and scan
> > > > > it if anyone wants to
> > > > > proof it.
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Debby Franson
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:58
> PM
> > > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] But they were
> good to
> > > their
> > > > > mothers In-reply-to:
> > > > > <75a7.f3030b3.3899d129@xxxxxxx>
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone!
> > > > >
> > > > > A friend sent this to me. Here is
> some
> > > history, and
> > > > > the subject line is the
> > > > > title of a book.
> > > > >
> > > > > But they were good to their
> mothers !!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a side of
> Jewish history
> > > you may have
> > > > > missed.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are few excuses
> for the
> > > behavior of
> > > > > Jewish gangsters in the 1920s
> > > > > and 1930s. The best known Jewish
> gangsters
> > > - Meyer
> > > > > Lansky, Bugsy Siegel,
> > > > > Longy Zwillman, Moe Dalitz,
> David
> > > Berman- were
> > > > > involved in the numbers
> > > > > rackets, illegal drug dealing,
> > > prostitution, gambling
> > > > > and loan sharking.
> > > > > They were not nice men.
> > > > >
> > > > > During the rise of
> American Nazism
> > > in the
> > > > > 1930s and when Israel was
> > > > > being founded between 1945 and 1948,
> however,
> > > they
> > > > > proved staunch defenders
> > > > > of the Jewish people.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The roots of Jewish
> gangsterism lay
> > > in
> > > > > the ethnic neighborhoods of the
> > > > > Lower East Side; Brownsville,//
> > > //Brooklyn//; Maxwell
> > > > > Street in Chicago;
> > > > > and Boyle Heights in Los Angeles. Like
> > > other newly
> > > > > arrived groups in
> > > > > American history, a few Jews who
> > > considered
> > > > > themselves blocked from
> > > > > respectable professions used
> crime as a
> > > means to
> > > > > "make good" economically.
> > > > > The market for vice flourished
> during
> > > Prohibition and
> > > > > Jews joined with
> > > > > others to exploit the artificial
> market
> > > created by
> > > > > the legal bans on
> > > > > alcohol, gambling, paid sex and
> narcotics.
> > > > >
> > > > > Few of these men were
> religiously
> > > > > observant. They rarely attended
> > > > > services, although they did support
> > > congregations
> > > > > financially. They did not
> > > > > keep kosher or send their children to
> day
> > > schools.
> > > > > However, at crucial
> > > > > moments they protected other Jews, in
> > > America and
> > > > > around the world.
> > > > >
> > > > > The 1930s were a period of
> rampant
> > > > > anti-Semitism in America,
> > > > > particularly in the Midwest. Father
> Charles
> > > Coughlin,
> > > > > the Radio Priest in
> > > > > Detroit, and William Pelley of
> Minneapolis,
> > > among
> > > > > others, openly called for
> > > > > Jews to be driven from positions of
> > > responsibility,
> > > > > if not from the country
> > > > > itself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Organized Brown Shirts in
> New York
> > > and
> > > > > Silver Shirts in Minneapolis
> > > > > outraged and terrorized American Jewry.
> While
> > > the
> > > > > older and more
> > > > > respectable Jewish organizations
> pondered a
> > > response
> > > > > that would not
> > > > > alienate non-Jewish supporters, others
> -
> > > including a
> > > > > few rabbis -asked the
> > > > > gangsters to break up American Nazi
> rallies.
> > > > >
> > > > > Historian Robert Rockaway
> writing in
> > > the
> > > > > journal of the American Jewish
> > > > > Historical Society, notes that
> German-American
> > > Bund
> > > > > rallies in the New York
> > > > > City area posed a dilemma for
> mainstream
> > > Jewish
> > > > > leaders. They wanted the
> > > > > rallies stopped, but had no legal
> grounds
> > > on which to
> > > > > do so. New York State
> > > > > Judge Nathan Perlman personally
> contacted
> > > Meyer
> > > > > Lansky to ask him to
> > > > > disrupt the Bund rallies, with
> the proviso
> > > that
> > > > > Lansky's henchmen stop
> > > > > short of killing any Bundists.
> Enthusiastic
> > > for the
> > > > > assignment, if
> > > > > disappointed by the restraints,
> Lansky
> > > accepted all
> > > > > of Perlman's terms
> > > > > except one: he would take no
> money for the
> > > > > work. Lansky later observed, "I
> > > > > was a Jew and felt for those Jews
> in Europe
> > > who were
> > > > > suffering. They were
> > > > > my brothers."
> > > > >
> > > > > For months, Lansky's
> workmen
> > > effectively
> > > > > broke up one Nazi rally after
> > > > > another. As Rockaway notes, "Nazi arms,
> legs and
> > > ribs
> > > > > were broken and
> > > > > skulls were cracked, but no one died."
> > > > >
> > > > > Lansky recalled breaking
> up a Brown
> > > Shirt
> > > > > rally in the Yorkville section
> > > > > of Manhattan: "The stage was decorated
> with a
> > > > > swastika and a picture of
> > > > > Hitler. The speakers started ranting.
> There
> > > were only
> > > > > fifteen of us, but we
> > > > > went into action. We threw some
> of them out
> > > the
> > > > > windows. . .
> > > > > . Most of the Nazis panicked and ran
> out.
> > > We chased
> > > > > them and beat them
> > > > > up... We wanted to show them that Jews
> > > would not
> > > > > always sit back and accept
> > > > > insults."
> > > > >
> > > > > In Minneapolis, William
> Dudley
> > > Pelley
> > > > > organized a Silver Shirt Legion
> to
> > > > > "rescue" America from an imaginary
> > > Jewish-Communist
> > > > > conspiracy. In Pelle's
> > > > > own words, just as "Mussolini and his
> Black
> > > Shirts
> > > > > saved Italy and as
> > > > > Hitler and his Brown Shirts saved
> Germany,"
> > > he would
> > > > > save America from
> > > > > Jewish communists. Minneapolis
> gambling
> > > czar David
> > > > > Berman confronted
> > > > > Pelley's Silver Shirts on behalf of
> the
> > > Minneapolis
> > > > > Jewish community.
> > > > >
> > > > > Berman learned that Silver
> Shirts
> > > were
> > > > > mounting a rally at Lodge. When
> > > > > the Nazi leader called for all the "Jew
> bastards"
> > > in
> > > > > the city to be
> > > > > expelled, or worse, Berman and his
> associates
> > > burst
> > > > > in to the room and
> > > > > started cracking heads. After ten
> minutes, they
> > > had
> > > > > emptied the hall. His
> > > > > suit covered in blood, Berman
> took the
> > > > > microphone and announced, "This is
> > > > > a warning. Anybody who says
> anything
> > > against Jews
> > > > > gets the same treatment.
> > > > > Only next time it will be worse."
> After
> > > Berman broke
> > > > > up two more rallies,
> > > > > there were no more public Silver
> Shirt
> > > meetings
> > > > > in Minneapolis.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jewish gangsters also
> helped
> > > establish
> > > > > Israel after the war. One famous
> > > > > example is a meeting between Bugsy
> Siegel and
> > > Reuven
> > > > > Dafne, a Haganah
> > > > > emissary, in 1945. Dafne was seeking
> funds and
> > > guns
> > > > > to help liberate
> > > > > Palestine from British rule. A mutual
> friend
> > > arranged
> > > > > for the two men to
> > > > > meet.
> > > > >
> > > > > "You mean to tell me Jews
> are
> > > fighting?"
> > > > > Siegel asked "You mean fighting
> > > > > as in killing?" Dafne answered in the
> > > affirmative.
> > > > >
> > > > > Siegel replied, "I'm with
> you."
> > > > >
> > > > > For weeks, Dafne received
> suitcases
> > > > > filled with $5 and $10 bills --
> > > > > $50,000 in all -- from Siegel.
> > > > >
> > > > > No one should paint
> gangsters as
> > > heroes.
> > > > > They committed acts of great
> > > > > evil. But historian Rockaway has
> presented a
> > > textured
> > > > > version of Jewish
> > > > > gangster history in a book ironically
> titled,
> > > "But
> > > > > They Were Good to their
> > > > > Mothers."
> > > > >
> > > > > Some have observed that,
> despite
> > > their
> > > > > disreputable behavior, they
> could
> > > > > be good to their people, too. A little
> > > interesting
> > > > > bit of Jewish history.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Debby
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > > about nice things is meaningless; it is
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> > > chasing the
> > > > > wind.--Ecclesiastes
> > > > > 6:9 NLT
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