I know that, David, chill out! I was simply saying that that might be a gray area as it presents some unique circumstances. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <talmage@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:23 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare's Purpose in Your Eyes > No, no, no! > Just because a book is out of print it doesn't mean it is out of copyright. > All it means is that the copyright holder has not chosen to release a new > edition, but it doesn't mean they don't anticipate doing so in the future. > Using your husband's argument, if you were to scan an out of print book, > you are depriving someone of future earnings. In some cases it may not > even be the author you are depriving, but rather their children, grand > children, or even just the publisher. Case in point, take a look at any of > the recently released books written by Louis L'amour. The copyright info > will say something like the estate of Louis L'amour. It would be > particularly hard for Louis to collect royalties as he has been dead since > the early 70's. > > Another question, I guess at the extreme end of the spectrum is, what about > used book stores? When you buy a book in a used book store neither the > publisher or author are receiving any money for that book. So therefore, I > guess we would have to consider people who run used book stores as the > leaches of the publishing trade. > > If we start to think U.S. publishers are difficult, here's a passage I've > always found interesting. In the copyright section of some books is the > following. > > Except in the United States of America, this book is sold subject > to the condition that it shall not, by way of trade or otherwise, be lent, > re-sold, hired out, or otherwise circulated without the publisher's prior > consent in any form of binding or cover other than that in which it is > published > and without a similar condition including this condition being imposed on the > subsequent purchaser. > > > > At 09:56 AM 6/10/2004, you wrote: > >No. I don't get your point. If a book is out of print, you *can't* purchase > >it. I see that as being similar to the Pub domain books. You're not > >depriving anyone of royalties etc. because there aren't any to be had. In > >that case, I think Bookshare or PG are logical alternatives for the blind > >user. > >Best, > >Donna > > >