[bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission

Working my way through emails Amy so this message may be redundant.

PQ books are publisher quality books: books supplied by the publisher and put 
into the collection without ever touching a scanner, scannor, (the person who 
scans), or validator.

Hope this helps.

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Amy Goldring Tajalli 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:16 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission


          
          Cindy,

         I must have missed something along the way but what are PQ books. I 
know I should know but I don'. Sorry.

        Amy

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          -------------- Original message from Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>: 
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          Children's books, mostly, and possibly juvenile lit. Charts and 
diagrams in other books I would assume can be retained in PQ books, probably in 
their original format, whereas we've had to "translate" them into other 
formats, such 
          > as words and paragraphs. 
          > 
          > Cindy 
          > 
          > --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Gary Petraccaro wrote: 
          > 
          > > From: Gary Petraccaro 
          > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission 
          > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          > > Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 10:34 PM 
          > > What kind of books are these where the descriptions should 
          > > be sought. I ask 
          > > because many books I do have pictures and sometimes, I 
          > > leave them out. 
          > > Thanks. 
          > > 
          > > ----- Original Message ----- 
          > > From: "Ann McCay" 
          > > To: 
          > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:54 PM 
          > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission 
          > > 
          > > 
          > > > The probem I have with this is that there are times 
          > > that publishers don't 
          > > > give us words for pictures, and we don't have the 
          > > luxury of using the 
          > > > volunteer's work to get that information if 
          > > we've lost that because we are 
          > > > now supposed to get this from the publisher. That is 
          > > true very recently 
          > > > with 
          > > > a publisher that I read from bookshare which was the 
          > > publisher's copy. It 
          > > > is 
          > > > fine as we work toward a publisher copy that will give 
          > > us what we want, 
          > > > but 
          > > > to say that this is so wonderful and we should only 
          > > keep to publishers 
          > > > right 
          > > > now is way too soon, and to the point that I may not 
          > > keep downloading only 
          > > > publisher copies. The things that I didn't know 
          > > after reading the 
          > > > publisher 
          > > > copy are things that I still don't know. 
          > > > 
          > > > -----Original Message----- 
          > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          > > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
          > > Of Laura Ann 
          > > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:33 PM 
          > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ 
          > > submission 
          > > > 
          > > > I agree Monica 
          > > > 
          > > > Thank you for posting this. 
          > > > I look forward to the PQ books and the access it will 
          > > give us to clean 
          > > > scans 
          > > > of books. 
          > > > I appreciate publishers working with bookshare. 
          > > > 
          > > > I also appreciate the volunteers and the variety of 
          > > books we can download. 
          > > > I don't want to see books that are historical 
          > > removed because new ones on 
          > > > the topic might take there place. 
          > > > Leave all the different types of books and let us 
          > > decide what to download. 
          > > > 
          > > > And I dont' have a problem with PQ books replacing 
          > > existing books scanned 
          > > > by 
          > > > us as volunteers. 
          > > > I want the best quality book available. 
          > > > We dont have the luxury of just going to a library or 
          > > store and reading 
          > > > the 
          > > > copy off the shelf as you mentioned. 
          > > > 
          > > > I appreciate everyone's hard work to see the 
          > > collection grows. 
          > > > Laura Ann 
          > > > 
          > > > At 03:08 PM 8/8/2008, you wrote: 
          > > >>Hi, Cindy. No one likes to have their time wasted 
          > > or see what they 
          > > >>worked on replaced. Having said that, a large 
          > > number of books currently 
          > > >>in the collection are nowhere near perfect. Keeping 
          > > them for the sake 
          > > >>of preserving someone's time isn't fair to 
          > > the members of Bookshare 
          > > >>both because it would create confusion when someone 
          > > is searching for 
          > > >>books and because we don't enjoy reading messed 
          > > up books unless we have 
          > > >>no other choice. Even books rated excellent 
          > > aren't usually letter 
          > > >>perfect, and a significant number have some serious 
          > > issues. 
          > > >> 
          > > >>Cindy, you have the ability to grab a book from 
          > > your library or 
          > > >>bookstore and read it whenever you want to. You 
          > > never have to worry 
          > > >>about scannos, and you don't have the 
          > > distraction of hearing non-words 
          > > >>spoken in almost every paragraph. Yet you are the 
          > > loudest voice asking 
          > > >>for Bookshare to keep scanned books when a 
          > > publisher-quality book is 
          > > >>available. Yes, you may validate carefully from the 
          > > print copy, and 
          > > >>that's wonderful. You are not in the majority 
          > > though, and Bookshare 
          > > >>can't just keep books processed by you while 
          > > getting rid of everyone 
          > > >>else's. All of us here have put our money, 
          > > time, and energy into 
          > > >>preparing books for people to read. Yet we do this 
          > > knowing that someone 
          > > >>could come along and do a BSO of our book at any 
          > > time. In this case, 
          > > >>the publisher is doing a BSO, and who is more 
          > > qualified to provide it 
          > > >>than the publisher? 
          > > >> 
          > > >>You send your emails copied to Lisa and Pavi and 
          > > would seem to speak 
          > > >>for us. You don't speak for many of us because 
          > > you don't have any 
          > > >>concept of what it's like to have scanned books 
          > > as your only source for 
          > > >>reading material. If Bookshare had a magic button 
          > > where they could 
          > > >>replace every book with a perfect publisher quality 
          > > version, I would 
          > > >>celebrate and send the staff some champagne. There 
          > > are a small number 
          > > >>of books with hand-written picture descriptions 
          > > that might be replaced, 
          > > >>and you could contact Bookshare about those. There 
          > > are literally 
          > > >>thousands of books in the Bookshare collection that 
          > > are barely legible 
          > > >>right now. They would become a pleasure to read if 
          > > replaced. Teachers 
          > > >>want extremely clean scans for their students to 
          > > read. The PQ books 
          > > >>provide that and benefit adult readers as well. I 
          > > just hope they will 
          > > >>expand the program and that other publishers will 
          > > work with Bookshare 
          > > >>in the future. 
          > > >> 
          > > >> 
          > > >>-- 
          > > >>Monica Willyard 
          > > >>Visit my blog at http://www.scannersguild.com 
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