[bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare Daisy files maintain Bolding, Font point sizes, Italics, and more

  • From: Melissa Smith <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:14:31 -0600

Well, the main reason I was interested was that I'm working on a cook book, and was thinking that I'd use the list feature for the ingredient list. When using the .xml file and a screenreader, you can jump straight to a list using a specific key stroke, which could be useful. When I get in the bullets and numbering I have tabs for bullets, numbering, outline, and list style. When I select the list style tab, I have a box where I can choose the list style, and there are 4 options in here. They are no list, 1 1.1 11.1, 1 a i, and article section. Then there are buttons to add or modify. Well, as expected, the no list option appears to have no affect on the text. Th 1 1.1 11.1 puts 10.1, 10.2 and so on before each item in the list. The option that says 1 a i does the same thing. The article section option puts Roman Numerals as well as enlarges and bolds the font. I sure wish it had options for ordered or unordered lists, because I understand those. If anybody has a newer version of Word and could shed some light on this situation, I'd sure appreciate it.


Melissa



Judy s. wrote:
Hi Melissa, I'm running on a windows 2000 with word 2000, so I'll bet my options look different. Sigh. If anyone else has a higher version of word and windows, and can post what happens when they go to form, bullets and numbering and the list tab, maybe we can figure it out. smile.

As an aside, I've found that there isn't any big reason to force lists that are in scanned books into the ordered and unordered lists that Word uses. It's just that if someone has actually done that, the Bookshare tools will preserve that formatting.

Judy s.

Melissa Smith wrote:
Yes, please explain more. In Office XP, I went to format, bullets and numbering, and to the list tab, but none of the list options made any sense.

Melissa



Jill O'Connell wrote:
Judy, Could you please explain to me about ordered and unordered lists? Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:18 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Bookshare Daisy files maintain Bolding, Font point sizes, Italics, and more


Hi all,

With a lot of the questioning about what the DAISY files keep
from the rft, I wanted to confirm the following from my own
experiences.  When the Bookshare tools translate a rtf into the
DAISY files and the associated XML files that a sighted Bookshare
member might read they always maintain:

1. Bolding
2. Font Point sizes
3. Italics
4. Tables (tables that were creates as true tables, using the
Word tables tools, for example).
5. Ordered and unordered lists
6. page numbering and pagination

I'd like to take a moment to really thank all the volunteers who
are working to keep these attributes in the books they scan, even
when those attributes don't make any difference to their own
reading and can be hard to understand.  smile.

For someone who is sighted, a book with all these attributes
stripped out is like listening to a symphony where every member
plays every instrument at the same volume, without any variation,
all the way through. You can listen to it, and still enjoy the
music. However, you've definitely lost some parts of what the
composer intended to convey and might not be able to notice a
theme that the oboes are repeating because the deep brass are
drowning them out.  grin.

Judy s.

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