[bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare Daisy files maintain Bolding, Font point sizes, Italics, and more

  • From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:30:57 -0800

Sorry, Cindy, I'm afraid those submitters would know more about this thing
than me. I know if I hit ctrl+I the type is italicized until I hit the same
keystroke to turn it off. In Braille, if you wish to italicize, you would
hit a certain dot combination on the Braille writer or slate before the word
you wish to italicize. If you wished to italicize a phrase, you would hit
the dot combination twice, write your first word and continue writing each
word without that dot combination until you come to the last word of the
phrase, where you'd write that dot combination once then write your word. If
I were to give you the specific way of writing this, you'd have a problem
because if you didn't have a Braille writer or slate, it wouldn't mean
anything to you if you didn't know Braille. If you were to write me and say
this was as clear as mud, I could only respond that I didn't blame you for
feeling that way. You have twenty-six letters, punctuation marks, plus
symbols you learn. We have a combination of sixty-three dot combinations
that can stand for letters, punctuation marks, and sometimes
vowel/consonants (ER, AR, ING, ED, etc.), and sometimes whole words, (and,
for, with). Braille changes if you wish to write musical notation, math
equations, or a foreign language. End of lecture. If you fell asleep during
this, just delete the damned thing and have done with it. I don't wish to
bore you to tears. Mind you, I've read Braille since the second grade, and I
certainly don't expect you to have feelings about it one way or another. Put
this down to runaway pontification on my part or if you wish to be kind, put
it down to what you will. Regards, Kim.  

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:44 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare Daisy files maintain Bolding, Font
point sizes, Italics, and more

Thanks, Kim.

Mainly I was wondering if a scanner would know whether or not a book had
words in italics so as to ask that it be prrofed by a sighted reader?
Cindy

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--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare Daisy files maintain Bolding, 
> Font point sizes, Italics, and more
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 11:37 PM Hi, Cindy, now this is 
> unknown territory to me. Mind you, it seems with a computer you have a 
> plethora of choices for the font style, but in this you'd know about 
> which are easier to read. I'd think the more ornate or flowery styles 
> would be hard on the eyes, even though they might look terribly 
> artistic. I remember futzing about with the Optacon and found I could 
> tell one letter from another if it was in block letters. I didn't care 
> much for sans-serif (sic) printing because all letters were fat in 
> some places and thin in others. No wonder I preferred to stick with 
> Braille!
> Anyhow, the Optacon is great for people who want to use it, but for 
> me, I preferred to do without it, me being an impatient soul. The main 
> thing is will the scanner be able to decipher the style and make sense 
> of it.
> Regards, Kim.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Cindy
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:18 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare Daisy files maintain Bolding, 
> Font point sizes, Italics, and more
> 
> In the past I tried to match the fonts in the print as closely as 
> possible with fonts available to me in Word, but I learned that some 
> of the Fancy ones just don't translate translate--I assume in braille 
> but maybe in other things, too, so I just use times Roman, or may New 
> York or some of the more common fonts that approximate what I'm 
> seeing. I didn't know Arial was desirable; I thought Times roman was 
> the preferred font, generally. I do enlarge and bold and italicize 
> letters and words, though, if they're that way in the book.
> Cindy
> 
> Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and 
> books-being-scanned list available at sites below
> 
> 
> 
> Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List
> 
> Books Being Scanned List:
> https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare Daisy files
> maintain Bolding,
> > Font point sizes, Italics, and more
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:19 PM Thanks Judy.
> It's helpful to
> > know where to focus. I thought the font face was
> retained from our rtf
> > files and have been trying rather frantically to make
> sure the chapter
> > font face stays consistent. In my current book, some
> scanned as Arial
> > and others scanned as Times New Roman. The glossary is
> a table in an
> > entirely different font, and I was about to type it in
> to make it
> > behave.
> > 
> > I remember the staff discussing the issue with us last
> year because
> > they wanted sighted users to be able to adjust fonts
> to a size and
> > type that works best for them. I never looked at the
> style sheet to
> > see what they had done with that. I assumed they used
> the font face
> > from the book. I wonder why they chose Arial as the
> default. I know
> > you probably don't know the answer. My mind is just
> wandering. I'm
> > also somewhat amused at how I have talked for so long
> about something
> > I will never understand.
> > 
> > 
> > Oh how I wish they still sold Opticons. I'd buy one in
> an
> > instant so I could
> > physically touch/see books and the shapes of the
> letters.
> > I'd tackle the
> > book I have here just to see the difference between a normal letter 
> > and the version in italics. We had an itinerant teacher
> during
> > second grade who had
> > an Opticon. She taught me to use it for an hour each
> day
> > and then left at
> > the end of the year. I never got to spend time alone
> with
> > it exploring the
> > books I wanted to read... Hardy Boys adventures! :D I
> wish
> > whoever owned the
> > patent to the machine would sell it to someone who
> would
> > make a new model.
> > 
> > 
> > Monica Willyard
> > "The best way to predict the future is to create it."
> --
> > Peter Drucker
> > 
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