[bksvol-discuss] Books rated Good
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:15:33 -0700 (PDT)
I agree, Evan and Jill. I've validated books marked
Good, and I'd say they're only Fair--so I'm assuming
books marked Fair must be really Poor.
That's why there's a list of Fair books that could be
rescanned. One goal, at least of many of us
volunteers, is to replace Fair and Good books that
are in the collection to make them excellent.
Sometimes they're re-scanned, sometimes, for people
like me who don't like to scan, Gustavo will put them
on the download list to be re-validated. Maybe
eventually all he bookshare books will be Excellent.
smile
Cindy
--- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I downloaded one marked Good, and if the book I got
> counts as Good, then I doubt I will ever try one
> marked Fair.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jill O'Connell
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:08 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Protecting page
> numbers and chapter headings
>
>
> I can't help wondering how many of us even
> download books marked fair or even good; I know I
> don't.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Donna Smith
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 10:32 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Protecting page
> numbers and chapter headings
>
>
> Hi Evan and others following this thread.
>
>
>
> I apologize for being the one to open this
> particular can of worms. Every time we've had this
> discussion on the list, it has brought up these same
> issues. There is no official requirement for this
> from BookShare. The goal is still to get as many
> books as possible in the collection following the
> absolute guidelines regarding copyright laws as
> amended, and the concern of quality is next in line
> with the understanding that it is possible to rate
> books as fair, good or excellent.
>
>
>
> However, many of us who do the work have our own
> standards of quality for our submissions and so
> we've come up with tips for how to get the best
> quality possible. These standards, and they vary
> from volunteer to volunteer, are not required by
> anyone. It's just a self-imposed standard.
>
>
>
> Personally, when I submit a book, I try to do as
> much clean-up as possible so that the validator has
> an easy job. Actually, I try to submit the book in
> a form I'd not mind reading. I knew from previous
> discussions on this list that the BS software has
> little quirks that we can accommodate by creating a
> particular format, though I had forgotten what that
> was specifically. I choose to follow this pattern
> of blank line, page number, blank line, text, or,
> false header, blank line, chapter heading, blank
> line text, because it will produce a better end
> result for all formats, but there is no requirement
> to do so. Volunteers can do as much as they are
> comfortable with doing both as submitters and
> validators, and the addition to the collection is
> appreciated by all.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps to explain it all a bit. Keep
> on scanning and keep up the good work!
>
>
>
> Peace and Hope,
>
>
>
> Donna
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Evan Reese
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:17 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Protecting page
> numbers and chapter headings
>
>
>
> Ok, now I'm more confused than ever. If I strip
> the headings manually, then why does the stripper
> need something to strip. If I don't strip them,
> then I need to make them consistent so the stripper
> can strip them correctly? But if I do strip them,
> then I need to put a fake one at the beginning of
> each chapter so the chapter heading doesn't get
> stripped? Do I have this all correct? Wouldn't it
> be a lot simpler just to not strip anything? Aren't
> we supposed - ideally anyhow - to be replicating the
> original book, in which there is in fact a heading
> at the top of each page, except on those which begin
> a chapter. This makes a lot of extra work and
> complexity and a reduction of quality for those who
> can't keep straight all the persnickety demands of
> the Bookshare software, or who don't have the time
> to go through and fix everything just right so that
> other readers can have a decent reading experience.
> I would say, just drop the whole stripping thing and
> make life simpler for everyone and then we won't
> have these quality problems.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Gerald Hovas
>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 4:18 PM
>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Protecting page
> numbers and chapter headings
>
>
>
> Donna,
>
>
>
> 1.. Yes, put a blank line before and after
> the page number when the page number is in the
> header as well as a blank line at the bottom of the
> page. I'm not sure if the blank line is necessary
> between the page number and the text, but I can say
> that putting one after the header does work well.
> If you leave the blank lines at the top and bottom
> of the pages off, then some odd things will happen
> to the page numbers when the HTML file is created.
> The page numbers end up as part of a paragraph
> instead of on a separate line.
>
>
> Example of how the page should look...
>
>
>
> [Page Break]
>
>
>
> 95
>
>
>
> .
>
> .
>
> .
>
> text
>
> .
>
> .
>
> .
>
>
>
> [Page Break]
>
>
>
> 2.. Yes, put a blank line between the
> chapter heading and the first line of text. Again,
> I don't know that this is necessary, but it does
> work well, and some people have said that it is
> necessary.
>
>
> 3. Yes, you need to give the Stripper
> something to strip other than the chapter heading or
> the chapter heading will be stripped. The easiest
> thing to do when page numbers are normally at the
> top of pages except on pages where a chapter begins
> is to move the page number from the bottom of the
> page to the top. If page numbers are always at the
> bottom of the page, then place a false header above
> the chapter heading. Using the title works well,
> and it won't look as odd if the Stripper fails to
> strip it for some odd reason. It helps to strip all
> of the real headers manually since its easier to
> strip them yourself than to insure that they are
> consistent so that the Stripper will remove them
> all, but if you do leave them in, then just follow
> the pattern of the headers and put whatever header
> would normally appear on the top of that page above
> the chapter heading.
>
>
>
> Examples of how pages should look...
>
>
>
> [Page Break]
>
>
>
> 95
>
>
>
> Chapter Seven
>
>
>
> .
>
> .
>
> .
>
> text
>
> .
>
> .
>
> .
>
>
>
> [Page Break]
>
>
>
> [Page Break]
>
>
>
> The Firm
>
>
>
> Chapter Seven
>
>
>
> .
>
> .
>
> .
>
> text
>
> .
>
> .
>
> .
>
>
>
> 95
>
>
>
> [Page Break]
>
>
>
> Or if the page would normally contain the
> author's name instead of the title...
>
>
>
> [Page Break]
>
>
>
> John Grisham
>
>
>
> Chapter Seven
>
>
>
> .
>
> .
>
> .
>
> text
>
> .
>
> .
>
> .
>
>
>
> [Page Break]
>
>
>
> I can't say that these are the only ways to do
> it, but I've had excellent results with these
> approaches.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Donna Smith
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:41 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Protecting page
> numbers and chapter headings
>
>
>
> Hi all.
>
>
>
> I hesitate to ask this question, but I can't
> find the answer on any of the official or unofficial
> sites giving tips to scanners.
>
>
>
> Did we ever determine absolutely what should
> be done to protect page numbers and chapter
> headings? What I want to know is:
>
>
>
> 1.. At the top of each page, do I need to
> put a blank line before and/or after the page
> number?
> 2.. For chapter numbers/titles that appear
> at the top of the page, do I put a blank line before
> and/or after it?
> 3.. Is it necessary to have something at the
> top of the page for the BookShare stripper to strip?
>
>
>
> I spend a good bit of time cleaning up each
> scan regarding page numbers, chapter headings and
> stripping out unwanted headers. I'm trying to do it
> in such a way that it will result in the best book
> in the finished product.
>
>
>
> I really, really hope that an answer has been
> found to this question and that I'm not opening up
> the can of worms we've had before about the
> different perceptions of what might work. <smile>
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Peace and Hope,
>
>
>
> Donna
>
>
>
>
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