[bksvol-discuss] Re: Book without blank lines at top/bottom of pages

  • From: Mayrie ReNae <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:37:43 -0800

Hi Christine,

There is one more thing which you might try. When a book is scanned using Fine Reader, there are no page breaks. There are, instead, section breaks. As you have some hard page breaks, I think I might be barking up the wrong tree here, but it can't hurt to try replacing section breaks with page breaks. The way that you do this in Microsoft Word is to type Control- H which will open the find and replace dialogue. In the find box type shift-6 (that is a carat) followed without a space by the lower case b. In the replace box type shift-6 followed without a space by the lower case letter m. Tab to the replace all button, and press enter. If there are indeed section breaks, and not page breaks in the original files, there will now be page breaks.

If this results in no difference, and there are no hard page breaks inserted into your file, you are correct that the book should be rejected.

I'd love to know if this process makes any difference.  Please, do let us know.

I have a huge amount of respect and admiration for folks like you who are determined, and persevere through difficult problems like these with your first validations. I have to admit, sadly, that had the books I first worked with had issues like these, I probably would have given up on learning to be a volunteer. Thank you for all of your hard work.

Peace,
Mayrie

At 09:08 AM 1/13/2008, you wrote:
Hi all,

I have been reading with interest everyone's comments on this issue. I tried Jamie's method of replacing page breaks with blank line page break blank line. I performed a "replace all," and in a book that is around 150 pages, there were only 21 replacements, and these were between front matter pages and between pages where one chapter ends and another begins. There was a discussion a few weeks ago about hard page breaks versus soft page breaks. I'm not sure I understand all this yet, but the following is the conclusion I have come to regarding the book in question: When using Jamie's method of replacing page breaks with blank line page break blank line, if only 21 replacements are made in a book that is over 150 pages, then the other 129 or so page breaks must therefore be soft page breaks and have nothing to do with the actual pagination of the print book. Since this book does not contain any page numbers, I cannot confirm this for sure, but I'm fairly certain that this is what's going on. As far as I understand it, books without hard page breaks (those that correspond with the actual pagination of the print book) must be rejected. That all took a lot longer to explain than I thought. Am I correct, or at least on the right track, with all this, and am I correct in believing that this book does indeed need to be rejected because of its lack of hard page breaks? If so, what a long process to find out that a book needs to be rejected, but, on a positive note, this newbie validator has definitely learned a lot from this one little book! Thanks for everyone's help with this, especially G. Cindy for taking the time to track down the copyright page.

Christine

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