Hi, Diane. It's my own personal opinion that if it scans well, I leave it in. Advertising doesn't necessarily have to be deleted. If it doesn't scan well, it's OK to delete it, or even if you just don't want to scan it, it's not core content so that's OK, but if it scans well, for me personally, I leave it in. Is that the only reason you think it should be rejected? Because if it is, it should be OK. Take care. -- Julie Morales Email & Windows/MSN Messenger: mercy421@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype mercy0421 AIM mercylab421 http://juliemorales.avonrepresentative.com/ Currently in Winchester Regional, Virginia Clear, 35°F Wind:S-170° at 7mph When a man marries a woman, they become one; but the trouble starts when they try to decide which one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Scalzi" <dscalzi@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book Submitted in January Thanks for the input, Gerald. The book I submitted also has a listing of other books from the publisher in the back, which I guess you are saying should be omitted since it constitutes advertising. I would like to get this book back so I can work on it myself, since it seems to need significant editing. Do I wait for someone to reject it, or can I download it as if I were going to validate it myself? If I need to wait for a rejection, I hope someone will do it right away. Thanks. _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerald Hovas Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 7:54 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book Submitted in January Diane, I don't believe K-1000 has the capability to strip the text from headers or footers and leave the page numbers yet. I think it's been asked for though to make preparing books for Bookshare easier. Please leave them in the book. They make it possible for members to discuss books with friends or in a class. Several have said it's very frustrating when people are referencing a particular page and they have trouble finding it because someone stripped the entire header and/or footer. As for captions, I don't think it will matter if you move them slightly so that one falls between two paragraphs to allow the book to read better. It's not critical that they are even left in, but I believe they usually are. It depends on the circumstances and whether or not they're considered main content. If the pictures appear on a page which is not included in the page numbering, then feel free to leave them out or move them to the end of the book. By not included in the page numbering, I'm referring to pages by themselves which which not only do not have a page number, but appear between two pages which are numbered consecutively like pages 55 and 56, so that no one would even know if the pages with the pictures are removed since there will be no gap in the page numbering. My experience with what Bookshare considers main content would suggest that only the main text is considered main content, and that anything else is optional. My experience with volunteers on this list, however, is that they would like to see captions--and most everything else--included if at all possible. I think the things that just about everyone has agreed they don't care to see are advertisements and order forms. Bookshare would definitely consider them not main content. My own thoughts would be that if material is left out when the book is published in a different format, then it wasn't main content. I know that there are two editions in hardback of Marley and Me: one with pictures and one without. In that instance, I'd consider the pictures not to be main content. HTH Gerald _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Diane Scalzi Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 1:25 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Book Submitted in January Hi Everyone, Thank you to all of you who responded to my test message, and, yes, I did receive my copy as well. John Glass, if you read this, special thanks to you for fixing my email address. On January 15, I submitted Steve Tasker's Tales of the Buffalo Bills by Steve Tasker and Scott Pitoniak. (I notice the system reversed the names. I uploaded the book before I saw the messages discussing this problem.) It is a light read and I think a good scan. However, I was not aware of the need to remove page headers but retain page numbers. I wonder if it would be better to set K1000 to ignore headers and footers, but then it would seem that the page numbers might go away, too. Please let me know what you think. There are also some pages with photographs where the captions break up sentences. (I would welcome any suggestions for editing books so the captions can come after the complete sentences. I left it alone because I didn't know the legal ramifications of making such changes.) Here is the book jacket info. A few days after becoming head coach of the Buffalo Bills midway through the 1986 season, Marv Levy made his first personnel decision, claiming Houston Oilers reserve wide receiver Steve Tasker off the waiver wire. It seemed like an afterthought at the time, but in retrospect, proved to be one of Levy's most prescient moves. Over the next 11 seasons, the diminutive 5-foot-9, 175- pound Tasker was a huge contributor as the Bills strung together an unprecedented four consecutive Super Bowl appearances in the early 1990s. Along the way, Tasker earned seven invitations to the Pro Bowl, and during the National Football League's 75th anniversary celebration, he was named the greatest special teams player of all-time. In Steve Tasker's Tales from the Buffalo Bills, the football star turned network television analyst takes a behind-the- scenes look at the franchise's most glorious era. With the assistance of award-winning sports columnist and author Scott Pitoniak, Tasker provides readers with insightful vignettes of colorful Bills personalities such as Levy, Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith, Thurman Thomas, and Ralph Wilson. He details the euphoria following the Bills' miraculous comeback from a 32-point deficit against the Houston Oilers in that 1993 Wildcard game, and the devastation after Scott Norwood's kick sailed wide right in Super Bowl XXV. There are humorous moments-like the time Ray Bentley nailed Fred Smerlas' cleats to the locker room floor- and the time Hall of Fame coach Hank Stram mistook Tasker for a caddie. And there are poignant moments-like the morning Levy told his players he had to take a leave of absence to undergo surgery for the removal of his cancerous prostate. CONTINUED ON BACK FLAP CONTINUED FROM FRONT FLAP Tasker takes the reader inside the helmet of NFL players, describing for them the deadly efficiency of the Bills' no- huddle offense ("There were times when we felt like we were unstoppable") and the effects of a jarring hit ("It's like being in a violent car wreck"). I hope someone will be willing to validate this book. If you aren't up to making the formatting changes, I guess you can reject it and I can fix it. I have the book, so can answer any questions you may have. Thanks for all you do. I really enjoy reading your posts, and have learned a lot already. Diane Scalzi, WI8K email: wi8k@xxxxxxxx phone: (586) 337-5226 address: 21621 Briarcliff, St. Clair Shores, MI 48082 To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.