-Tony, I know this isn't your point, but I think dwarfs is as acceptable as dwarves these days. I found it that way in a book recently and left it alone. Of course, dwarfs as a verb is different from dwarfs as a noun, but that's another mater (smile). Also, I found out when I was correcting Englis papers a few years back, fishes is now an acceptable plural, whereas when I was young (many years ago) the plural of fish was fish. Language changes, no always for the better, but I suppose in many cases it is toward the more sensible. Cindy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com