No it is already built-in, see, if you go to optimize, it should do it all. On 8/15/08, Paula and James Muysenberg <outofsightlife@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, Julia, > > I was sure this setting was still somewhere in Version 11, but I just > looked and can't find it. I searched the manual, and also found nothing > about it. I wonder if the program somehow doesn't need it anymore. > > Paula > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julia Kulak" <julia.kulak@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:18 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Become A Black Belt Submitter > > >> Hi, I think Kurzweil eliminated one setting in version 11, there doesn't >> appear to be a setting that has recognition of light text on a dark >> background. Will this mess up the book? Should I downgrade to version 10 > for >> this feature, and is there an equivalent setting in version 11? >> Julia >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 2:40 PM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Become A Black Belt Submitter >> >> >> > Hi Jim, I have a personal copy; but you, and anyone else here, can find >> > the article on Jake's site at: >> > >> > http://www.jbrownell.com/bks/tip.asp?id=29 >> > >> > Evan >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 7:49 AM >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Become A Black Belt Submitter >> > >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> Where is the stuff Pratik' wrote about this? >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> James D Homme, Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., >> >> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 >> >> >> >> "The difference between those who get what they wish for and those who >> >> don't is action. Therefore, every action you take is a complete >> >> success,regardless of the results." -- Jerrold Mundis >> >> Highmark internal only: For usability and accessibility: >> >> http://highwire.highmark.com/sites/iwov/hwt093/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "EVAN REESE" >> >> <mentat3@verizon. >> >> net> > To >> >> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> bksvol-discuss-bo > cc >> >> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> g > Subject >> >> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Become A > Black >> >> Belt Submitter >> >> 08/14/2008 07:27 >> >> PM >> >> >> >> >> >> Please respond to >> >> bksvol-discuss@fr >> >> eelists.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for sending this up. This is all very useful stuff. >> >> >> >> I do use Scan Repeatedly, and just hit the Cancel key twice if I get a >> >> confidence number below the threshhold - which on my K1000 is set to >> >> %98.7. >> >> If I can go twenty or fifty pages without getting a page below that >> >> number, >> >> then it saves me from having to hit the F9 key twenty or fifty times. >> >> >> >> I also use autocorrection, but haven't compared a scan with and without >> >> it, >> >> so I cannot take sides in that debate. >> >> >> >> According to Pratik's excellent monograph on getting the best > recognition >> >> of mass market paperbacks, he wrote that grayscale and 400 dots per > inch >> >> can sometimes produce better results than static optimized. So your > point >> >> here about grayscale is a good one, but increasing the resolution from >> >> 300 >> >> to 400, especially for poor quality print such as you'd get with cheap >> >> paperbacks can give even better recognition sometimes. Of course, >> >> increasing the resolution from the usual 300 will also slow down the > scan >> >> and the recognition; but the extra time invested up front is very > likely >> >> to >> >> be more than offset by the time saved cleaning up the scan afterword. >> >> >> >> I have scanned the same material with Suspicious Regions kept and >> >> ignored, >> >> and it can really make a difference in the amount of junk you get. So >> >> this >> >> is another good point you make here. >> >> >> >> Thanks again. >> >> >> >> Evan >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Monica Willyard >> >> To: Bookshare Volunteers >> >> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:19 PM >> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Become A Black Belt Submitter >> >> >> >> Hi, everyone. I wrote an email about getting really clear scans for one >> >> of >> >> our volunteers, and it occurred to me that someone on this list might >> >> benefit from it. It's a little on the long side. I hope something in it >> >> will help you. If I've said anything confusing, please ask me about it. > I >> >> know many of you have done a lot of scanning, so I'm focusing on things >> >> that may not have occurred to you. I'll call them my top ten scanning >> >> tips. (grin) They work from my experience, and you may find that you > need >> >> to experiment to find something that works well for you. Also, I use >> >> Kurzweil for scanning. Openbook users may find some of this to be > useful, >> >> but some of it won't apply. I do have Openbook 7 and used it for > several >> >> years. So I'll do my best to help you translate these to Openbook if >> >> that's what you need. >> >> >> >> I got a lot of these ideas from volunteers I've been fortunate enough > to >> >> work with over the past 2 years. Jim Baugh, Louise, Pratik, Jake, > Scott, >> >> Shelley, and Gerald taught me so much about good scanning. Thanks guys. >> >> (smile) You rock! >> >> >> >> 1. Start with some solid settings in Kurzweil that will work most of > the >> >> time. You may know your way around Kurzweil well. I don't know if > you've >> >> thought to work on these settings though since they're not obvious. > Under >> >> the settings menu, in the general tab, make sure that your confidence >> >> threshold is set to at least 98.5. Why? Kurzweil defaults to 95 > percent, >> >> and that means that it optimizes scans for a lower level of accuracy. >> >> That >> >> means you won't get the best results from optimization. That also means >> >> more clean-up on the backside, and that's a pain in the neck. The other >> >> setting in general that you may want to turn on if you have some disk >> >> space is the option to keep scanned images. This feature lets you >> >> re-recognize pages if they have issues. Sometimes just changing > something >> >> like detect columns will make that page come out right without you > having >> >> to totally rescan the page. Once you've read through the book, Kurzweil >> >> will let you remove the scanned images from the book to reduce the file >> >> size. >> >> >> >> There are three final settings that you may find useful for scanning > most >> >> fiction. These work well for me, especially with library books. They're >> >> all under the recognition tab. Column identification should be enabled. >> >> Partial columns should be ignored, and suspicious regions should be >> >> ignored. This flies in the face of what Nick has recommended on the >> >> Kurzweil list, so I'd better explain. When scanning books, it's > somewhat >> >> common to get a shadow from the spine of the book. It often makes a >> >> narrow >> >> column of a tab character and a random group of numbers or letters. If >> >> you >> >> turn off column identification, these random letters are mingled with > the >> >> regular text. Turning on the column detection separates this garbage > from >> >> the text, and ignoring partial columns and suspicious regions removes > it >> >> during OCR. If a page needs column detection turned off due to a table, >> >> and you have retained images of the scanned page, you can easily change >> >> the recognition settings and just re-recognize the page from the > scanned >> >> image. Do you see how this could save you time and hassle? >> >> >> >> Once you have settings you like, save them as default so you can start >> >> scanning without worrying about them each time you start Kurzweil. >> >> >> >> 2. Prepare your book for scanning, and you'll get better results from > the >> >> start. Before you begin to scan a book, run your fingers lightly > through >> >> the pages to remove any possible ink ,dust, or other particles that may >> >> be >> >> on the pages. If the book is a library book, flip through the book in >> >> sections of about fifteen pages or so, gently pressing your fingers > along >> >> the inner spine to encourage the book to lie flat. If the book belongs > to >> >> you, especially if its a paperback, flip through sections as with a >> >> library book, but bend the book back so that it's outer covers almost >> >> touch. You're giving your book some flexibility stretches while not >> >> breaking its spine. This is especially important for thick books or >> >> two-page scanning mode and will keep you from having to push down as > hard >> >> on books while you scan. >> >> >> >> 3. Optimize and verify settings for your book. Before scanning a book, >> >> open to the center and use the optimize feature. The Kurzweil staff > says >> >> that optimization should be used in one-page mode so it can get the > best >> >> idea of how the print works in your book. Scan four or five pages after >> >> optimization to determine if any adjustments in settings need to be > made. >> >> Kurzweil does a fairly good job picking the optimal settings to scan a >> >> particular book unless the print quality is exceptionally bad. If > you're >> >> planning to scan in two-page mode, you can turn this back on once > you're >> >> finished with optimization. >> >> >> >> 4. When in doubt, go for grey-scale. Grey-scale is the best and most >> >> reliable thing to try when optimization doesn't produce the quality > that >> >> you need. Try grey-scale with brightness of around 65 and a resolution > of >> >> 300 DPI. It's really great for scanning mass market paperbacks. >> >> Grey-scale >> >> will make your scans slower, and its scanned images are larger than > those >> >> made with static thresholding. It gives the best page representation >> >> though, compared to other forms of thresholding. If you're using a > Canon >> >> or Visioneer scanner, grey-scale will save your bacon! (grin) Please > note >> >> that Openbook 7 doesn't implement grey-scale correctly, so automatic >> >> contrast is probably your best choice. >> >> >> >> 5. Catch bad scans as they happen. There is a friendly debate among >> >> submitters about whether to scan in batches or to scan pages and >> >> recognize >> >> them one at a time. There are pros and cons on both sides. I do a sort > of >> >> modified batch style. I scan a book while on the phone or doing > something >> >> else but don't use the scan repeatedly feature for one reason. I want > to >> >> catch badly scanned pages as they happen. It saves me from hunting for > a >> >> page to rescan it later. So I scan a page and let my scan recognize > while >> >> I'm turning to the next page. I wait for Kurzweil to tell me its >> >> confidence number. I make this really easy because I've turned off the >> >> progress messages for Kurzweil's scanning and recognition and have it > set >> >> to play a chime when scanning and recognition are finished. So if >> >> Kurzweil >> >> says something, it's the confidence number letting me know that the > page >> >> scanned below the accuracy threshold I've set. If the statistics say 97 >> >> percent confidence level or less, rescan the page to try for a better >> >> scan. Otherwise, you will have to struggle with many errors on the > page. >> >> >> >> 6. Your scanner needs TLC too. Books can be dirty or dusty sometimes. >> >> Mass >> >> market paperbacks can leave a residue of ink dust on your scanner. Keep >> >> the scanner glass clean by using a dry, lint-free cloth. Never use >> >> anything wet like an alcohol pad or baby wipe. That will create little >> >> bubbles under the scanner glass and will cause problems in future > scans. >> >> >> >> 7. When scanning a book, do a spot check every 15 or 20 pages. Look at >> >> the >> >> last page or two of the file to make sure the settings are still >> >> producing >> >> accurate results. >> >> >> >> 8. After doing a scan, run rank spelling. It will let you see your >> >> spelling errors and will put them in the order of their prevalence in >> >> your >> >> scan. If you find some words that Kurzweil doesn't know, you may want > to >> >> add them to your word list so they won't be flagged in future scans. I >> >> don't do this for proper names unless its a name that will keep > cropping >> >> up in future books. I do add words that are valid but that Kurzweil >> >> doesn't have in its internal word list. You'll find that doing this > over >> >> time helps Kurzweil do a better job for you when you're cleaning up > your >> >> scans. >> >> >> >> 9. Keep the de-speckle setting turned off for most books. You may need > it >> >> with hardcover books because they sometimes have a text decoration on > the >> >> pages. Otherwise, de-speckle can interfere with OCR and actually cause >> >> more errors than it solves. >> >> >> >> 10. The issue of using auto-corrections when scanning is another issue >> >> where there is debate. I believe it can be a good thing if used >> >> carefully. >> >> I should note that Gerald has pointed out that Openbook has some >> >> auto-corrections that cause problems with books and should be fixed by >> >> users of that program. Kurzweil seems to do a good job for me, and it >> >> makes my work easier. I loaded up a bunch of my older scans that have >> >> been >> >> lurking on my hard rive for over a decade and ran auto-correction on >> >> them. >> >> What an improvement! I might actually get to submit some of them now. >> >> Here >> >> are a few auto-corrections I have added to my Kurzweil list. >> >> >> >> dirough for through >> >> diough for though >> >> diought for thought >> >> diey for they >> >> diere for there >> >> dieir for their >> >> cornpany for company >> >> cornfortable for comfortable >> >> tiiing for thing >> >> rnany for many >> >> anydiing for anything >> >> >> >> >> >> If you use Openbook, you may want to remove a few of the corrections in >> >> its default list. I regularly find these in books scanned in Openbook > and >> >> have to fix them as I read. >> >> >> >> modem for modern >> >> torn for tom >> >> glock for clock >> >> morn for mom >> >> bum for burn >> >> corn for com >> >> >> >> That last one causes problems for anyone scanning Star Trek books > because >> >> Kirk presses his corn badge to talk to the ship. (grin) If a word like >> >> command is hyphenated between two pages, you get corn-mand. Meanwhile, >> >> Batman dials into the internet with his modern, tries to stop a crook >> >> named torn from shooting him with a clock, and puts the dirty burn in >> >> cuffs until mom-ing. See how auto-corrections can go wrong if you're > not >> >> careful? >> >> >> >> Whew! We've made it to the end. (grin) I hope some of this makes your >> >> scans easier to work with. It'll give you a foundation to start from >> >> anyhow. Clean-up tips will be another email and will take some thought. >> >> I'm better at doing than explaining things. I do have a system I use >> >> though. I just haven't really written it down. Anyone got a cold Dr. >> >> Pepper to share? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Monica Willyard >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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