[bksvol-discuss] Re: Anyone Willing to Take on a Newbie?

Boy, I concur with this idea. Standardized font size for the text, and
standardized font and size for the headings.  That sounds really good.  I
hope we will adopt this idea.  Let's get resolution soon on it, okay?

One thing I would say that I noticed. I was saying that I use K-1000. And I
noticed that when I have used that to say, insert a page number or something
like that, the RTF file would reflect the style and size of the font that is
used withiin that program.  So you could have teeny tiny font in the file,
of say times roman 10 point and here comes a page number that is a big old
18 point bold like I use in the K-1000.  At least I thought that was what
had caused it.  

Thanks.
Rik

 

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Hi Judy,

Yes, OK, that sounds good, and may even be possible for us blind validators.

If the Bookshare staff want to make policy and support this method of 
marking up fonts and other formatting, then documentation could be created 
for getting the job done with the different apps in common use for 
validation.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 1:29 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Anyone Willing to Take on a Newbie?


Hey Darrell,

I'm not sure how difficult doing what I'm doing with font standardization 
would
be for a blind validator, so I can't judge at all.  It might be a royal pain

in
the butt.  As I'm working from visual cues, however, and using some tricks 
with
Word's wild card searches, it's a snap to do, and very fast - often just a
matter of a few minutes.

Judy s.

Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> Hi Mayrie,
>
> I also like Judy's approach best, but I just can't see most validators 
> being
> able to spend the amount of time required in order to do this level of
> detailed formatting.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:57 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Anyone Willing to Take on a Newbie?
>
>
> Hi Judy!
>
>          I personally think you've found the best solution.  I'm glad
> that you have weighed in on this topic, and with such thorough
> explanation of your reasoning and how you implement your practices.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Peace,
> Mayrie
>
> At 12:20 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:
>> Monica, as I recall the list had a long discussion about leaving
>> fonts 'as they are' in the scanned file.  smile.
>>
>> Scanner hardware and OCR software often don't translate fonts
>> exactly as they are in the book.  Some of the scans I've validated
>> have had upwards of 40 different fonts within them, with sizes
>> varying from 3 points to 121 points. Practically all of the books
>> I've validated do not have the same font as the published version,
>> sometimes because the published font isn't one that's even available
>> to the scanning software.
>>
>> If a book has multiple types and sizes of fonts, I standardize font
>> type and font size for the text, and use the same font but a
>> different size and weight for chapter titles.  Fonts that are below
>> 8 in size, or larger than 28 seem to be a real problem for the
>> translation software, so I usually choose a font size of 12 or 14
>> for the text, and 22 or 24 for the chapter titles.  That seems to
>> maintain without any problems the publisher's pagination for the book, 
>> too.
>>
>> I do keep italics and bolding, but with the following provision:
>> only when they seem appropriate within the context of the
>> text.  Again, I do this because I've now validated many books that
>> have every other page in italics, or every other sentence in bold,
>> or even half a sentence in bold and half a sentence in italics, when
>> the original printed book clearly had nothing of the kind when I
>> used Amazon's feature to look 'inside' a book.
>>
>> I realize that what I do is probably different than most validators,
>> as I am fully sighted and it's easy for me to immediately catch the
>> fonting stuff. The fonting is important for a non-blind disabled
>> reader, however, so I'm particularly aware of the fonting issues and
>> that leaving fonts 'as they are' isn't a requirement for validators.
>> smile.
>>
>> Judy s.
>>
>> Monica Willyard wrote:
>>
>>> Now on to your questions. We're supposed to leave the fonts as they
>>> are in the scanned file. Our job as a validater is to proofread the
>>> text, correcting obvious errors. We also make sure the book is
>>> complete and that the title and copyright information are listed in
>>> the book. It isn't a requirement, but many of us remove the
>>> headers, leaving the page number intact. This is because many of
>>> our readers find the headers on each page to be distracting.
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