[bksvol-discuss] Re: About The Chat Room Problem

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:13:58 -0700 (PDT)

Ah--I was thinking of a different Brian. I don't know
Brian Collins, but Welcome to him. smile

There is only one person I know of, who still
sometimes posts on one of these lists, who sometimes
says things that are disagreeable to the majority--but
even that person has toned down the comments--and E, I
am NOT thinking of you. smile 

We all probably say things at times  that are
misunderstood, but there is always at least one person
who does understand and explains even before the
person him/herself has a chance to explain what he/she
meant.

Cindy

--- Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Sue, my comments about my frustration with the
> scanning session were 
> about a different person and were made to you
> off-list in a private 
> message.  You couldn't have known that we weren't
> talking about the 
> same person, so I can see your point.  Though I was
> pretty angry with 
> him, I don't think I mentioned his name to you,
> though I do know who 
> he is.  You are right to point out that I should not
> have commented 
> on his behavior to you at all, and I resolved the
> situation with him 
> directly after I emailed you.  I am learning how to
> resolve conflict 
> with others and am finding that it is so easy to
> misread a person's 
> intentions.
> 
> As I tried to express last night, Linda has every
> right to comment on 
> her experiences at the chat room.  I was attempting
> to provide an 
> alternative view to her description of what took
> place, not to say 
> that she can't express an opinion.  I found the
> responses to her 
> comments to be disturbing more than what Linda said.
>  I could have 
> chosen to ignore the thread of messages, and maybe I
> should 
> have.  What has prompted me to say something is the
> fact that Brian 
> Collins is a new Bookshare member and joined our
> lists last week.  He 
> is also signed up as a new volunteer.  I believe
> that allowing these 
> comments to continue without presenting another
> viewpoint would leave 
> Brian vulnerable in a one-down position in terms of
> getting help with 
> learning to work with Bookshare and in finding
> people to validate his 
> scans.  Maybe none of this will matter in the long
> run.  I don't have 
> a crystal ball and can't see into the future.  I
> just know that if I 
> were new here, I'd feel uncomfortable and unwelcome,
> especially if no 
> one was willing to suggest that I'd been
> misunderstood.
> 
> Monica Willyard
> 
> At 09:03 AM 7/12/2007, you wrote:
> 
> >Hi Monica,
> >
> >You were down on him after a meeting on scanning, I
> recall, and I got a bad
> >impression of him because of what you said to me. 
> So do you really have the
> >right to criticize Linda for something you yourself
> did?  At that time, I
> >went by what you said.  Are you perhaps being a bit
> self-righteous just
> >because you have evidently gotten to know him?
> >
> >Sent with a smile,
> >
> >Sue S.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:28 AM
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] About The Chat Room
> Problem
> >
> >
> >Fellow Booksharians, I am disappointed in your
> response to this
> >thread and how it has spread.  I know you don't
> usually jump to
> >conclusions about people.  Neither Cindy, Dilsia,
> nor Elizabeth were
> >present, and yet several people  have taken their
> messages to heart
> >and are roasting a man for saying something that
> they did not hear
> >themselves.  I respect Linda's feelings and
> opinion, though I do not
> >share it.  Brian's comments have been taken out of
> context, were not
> >shared in their entirety, and no one has even asked
> anyone else
> >present at the chats to clarify this.  His comments
> were made in
> >response to a question asked about using live
> transcription in the
> >chat room so our hearing-impaired friends could be
> part of the chat
> >as it's happening.  I know Brian personally, and I
> know that while he
> >is sometimes hasty to speak his mind, he is not a
> person who bashes
> >blind people or who thinks blind people can't type
> quickly.  He is
> >blind himself, and one of his hot buttons is
> fighting stereotypes
> >such as the misguided belief that all blind people
> can tune pianos,
> >do transcription, or play music like Ronnie Milsap.
>  I have never
> >heard Brian say that blind people cannot hold down
> jobs or be part of
> >the world.  By the same token, he is a direct
> person somewhat like
> >Elizabeth and will say what he thinks plainly.  He
> will gladly
> >explain what he's thinking if you ask for
> clarification and sometimes
> >doesn't fully realize that he's been misunderstood.
>  He is also a
> >person who will quickly change his behavior if he
> knows he's
> >offending someone and does often admit and
> apologize when he's
> >wrong.  He may not be your cup of tea, and yet he
> isn't an evil
> >trolling worm as he has been called on this list.
> Because of these
> >things, I would appreciate it if people would take
> what they hear
> >second hand from the chats with a big grain of salt
> and/or attend the
> >chats when possible.  You might conclude that Brian
> is as much of a
> >jerk as has been written here, or you might find a
> pleasant surprise
> >by meeting a person who has an unique perspective
> on the
> >world.  Either way, you'll know for sure what is
> being said and why.
> >
> >Monica Willyard
> >
> >At 04:12 PM 7/9/2007, you wrote:
> > >It sounds to me as if his disability is mental.
> > >
> > >Cindy
> > >
> > >or what his
> > > > disability might be. Sounds
> > > > silly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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