[bksvol-discuss] Re: ARK (Arkenstone)?
- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:31 -0500
Colleagues,
Bookshare has promised an intermediate validation area where this type of
conversion can be processed THose of us who have access to various programs
such as K1K, OB, FR Etc will be able to help those of us who do no have
access to such programs by conducting oh, let's say "partial validation. We
have to be "patient." Yes, Yes, we've been saying that for quite a
fewyears. Let's just wait a bit longer. As to downloading books and
sending to each other--that's a no no!
As validators, we are not permitted to send complete, scanned books to each
other via electronic or other means. I'm sure Bookshare will let us know if
this policy has changed. But the difference between that process and the
process that bookshare is planning to setup is that via Bookshare's process,
it is able to keep track of what book is where. It is not always possible
to do so when we, as volunteers, take it upon ourselves to e-mail each
other. Those of us on this list might be able to work out a mechinism to
notify bookshare, but those of us who are not on the list may not have that
opportunity and might lead to a lot of confusion. I would urge all of you
forebare from ocnverting material and sending it to each other via any
means. One or two pages are perfectly fine where validations are concerned,
but entire books are impossible.
Pratik
Pratik Patel
Interim Director
Office of Special Services
Queens College
Director
CUNY Assistive Technology Services
The City University of New York
ppatel@xxxxxx
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Blanks
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:23 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ARK (Arkenstone)?
Jana, you mentioned trouble converting openbook text into another format. I
haven't noticed that particular problem since I began using openbook 7.0,
and now 7.02. Are you operating an older version? Also, have you tried
simply scanning the text and then using the save as or file conversion
features? If so, do these yield the same results?
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Jana <mailto:jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Jackson
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:13 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ARK (Arkenstone)?
Hi, everyone! I think Scott's idea is a great one, except for one thing.
I've noticed that when I bring up a file or scan a file into Open Book and
then launch it into Word, I seem to lose a lot of formatting. In fact,
sometimes Word (or Duxbury, too, for that matter) seems to put all of the
text into one huge paragraph. So, if FS would improve this feature, it
would be doable.
Downloading books in the .ark format and uploading them in RTF is certainly
allowed... Or did I misunderstand Tiffany's last post? <Smile>
Jana
----- Original Message -----
From: Tiffany <mailto:tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> H. Jessen
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 5:26 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ARK (Arkenstone)?
I guess essentially it could be done that way--as if you resubmitted the
book only in another format, but then how does the real submitter obtain the
submission credit? The validater would have to know to download both copies,
and though they would be using the rtf copy, also know to reject the copy
which was originally in rtf and then after validating the rtf copy then
approve the submission which was originally in ark. It seems much too
complicated.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisa <mailto:hunter123@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Belville
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ARK (Arkenstone)?
Yes, this is true, but would it be possible for those of us with the
Openbook program to download the file and then re-upload it via the Step 1
page? There would then be two copies, but the new submitter could make a
note to that affect. just a thought.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tiffany H. Jessen <mailto:tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 5:56 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ARK (Arkenstone)?
problem is, when you release a book, it goes back up in it's original
format/condition.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott <mailto:scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> Blanks
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ARK (Arkenstone)?
I have a kind of half formed thought about how we might be able to get more
people validating the .ark books. Could someone that has Openbook download
the file, convert it to .rtf, then release it back to the web site as a rich
text format file, thus allowing someone else to get their hands on the books
they'd personally like to validate? I might not quite have the logistics
down, but there must be a solution we can work out.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Kellie Hartmann <mailto:kellhart@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 3:50 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ARK (Arkenstone)?
Hi Alison,
Arc is the format used by Openbook, another OCR package that's a competitor
to Kurzweil. Unfortunately if you don't have Openbook, you can't work on
those files. It's a shame to because I would like to get my hands on that
great big pile of language teaching and learning books that someone
submitted.
Kellie
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