Agree 100%! -----Original Message----- .From: "Rui Cabral"<rui@xxxxxxxx> .Sent: 8/9/04 7:11:30 PM .To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> .Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: 550 books in the download queue . .550 books in the download queueHi Jesse: .I couldn't agree with you more in that we need to get the # of books in queue down to a more manageable level. . .However where we part company is on text quality. . .Here is a portion of a message i submitted back in April entitled **Text quality** . .In my experience, anything marked fair is usually almost unreadable. . We as a bookshare community need to put the emphasis squarely on text quality, proper pagination, etc. . .Otherwise the collection may grow but the membership will not. . .Less members=less funding for all of those site improvements that everyone wants. Over time when the improvements don't materialize more members will not renew there subscriptions, which in turn means even less funding. .All of this can be traced right back to the text quality issue. . .Bookshare is supposed to be an E-library of sorts. Would you expect to go to your local library and borrow a book with pages missing, pages where lines ran together, etc. .Of course not, if you found such a book, you would bring it to the front desk and (in most cases) they would likely take it out of circulation. . .Reading is supposed to be enjoyable, people do it as a hobby, to relax, etc. .It becomes outright drudgery when you have to "interpret" your book instead of reading it. . .-- End of prior post. . .It would be much more beneficial to Bookshare to have 20,000 quality submitions then let's say 25 or 30 thousand marginal ones. . .People should not be spending too much time on vallidation, if a book is in that bad of shape, it should without question be rejected, the time would be better spent rescanning the book. .Reason being, even with hours of maticulous cleanup, a fresh scan will usually beat out a badly scanned book that has been cleaned up in terms of quality. . .Anyone who reads a book with speech, and to a larger extent Braille, knows how important "quality control" is. . .Thank you. . . ----- Original Message ----- . From: Jesse Fahnestock . To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx . Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 4:49 PM . Subject: [bksvol-discuss] 550 books in the download queue . . . As someone just pointed out, we have lots and lots of books awaiting validation. More than we ever have. Certainly, that's a good thing: it reflects the growth of the volunteer community and the high number of submissions we're receiving. Unfortunately, it also means that many books are spending a long, long time in the validation process before making it to Bookshare.org: It's not at all unusual for submitted books to take 3-4 months to make their appearance on Bookshare.org right now. . . One of the reasons we started this project was to help make books available in a more timely fashion -- we were all too aware of how the intensive recording process slowed the release of so many books on audio tape, and we believed that a sharing-based website would allow people to access bestsellers and new releases (among other kinds of books) very quickly. Bookshare.org has been hugely successful in doing just that, though over the last half-year, we've hit some delays. I think we can overcome them and get back to quicker turnarounds on submitted books. . . Back in March the delay was on the administrative end -- we had more than 600 books awaiting administrative approval. But in the end we knuckled down and cleared out the backlog, and now the administrative queue is lean again. I wonder if we can't do the same thing with this validation backlog. We have the resources -- there are more active Bookshare.org volunteers than ever before -- and the problem is not unmanageable. . . What will it take to get that number down from 550 to, say, 150? I'm not sure. I'd love to hear your suggestions. But one suggestion that I'd like to make is one I've made many times before: be careful not to allow attention to detail to overwhelm your volunteering efforts. While I have been truly impressed by the quality control of this volunteer group, and believe that raising the quality of the books on Bookshare.org is perhaps the most important collection goal we have right now, I don't believe we have to sacrifice timely publication of submissions while aiming for a higher quality standard. . . I'd encourage everyone to be judicious about where you spend your proofreading time. If you download a book for validation that is in excellent condition, with few major errors, I encourage you to perform the essential validation tasks and not to pore over every word of text. Remember that the next book may really need your tender loving care! . . Remember that these are the only steps you are required to take as a validator: . . 1. Check that the book is not already on Bookshare.org, or if it is, that it is being submitted as a superior replacement or transcribed Braille copy. . 2. Check that the book is not an eBook acquired under proprietary agreement (e.g. a commercial eBook, a book from WebBraille, etc.) . 3. Make sure that the copyright name and date are included. . 4. Make sure that the title and author are included somewhere in the book. . 5. Make sure the book is not missing multiple pages of core content. . 6. Make sure the book is readable. . . Please don't hesitate to give the better-quality submissions a close inspection on these points and either approve or reject accordingly, and lavish your editorial attention on the scans that really need them! . . Thanks for considering this suggestion. I think we can get this backlog down and start the approvals flowing again. Please don't hesitate to make other suggestions for how the volunteer community can tackle this challenge! . . jesse. . . . . .