Ok. [diagram of Author's family tree]... will be inserted into the pages
where it sits in the book.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Rains
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Andy,
You have given it due diligence. Thanks! I agree with Mayrie's advice.
Scott Rains
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[bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy B.
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That's probably what I will do then.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae
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Hi Andy,
Because we are required not to alter the book in order not to break
copyright agreements that Bookshare has with publishers, I think that
you're
safest just deleting the tree entirely if it can't be OCRed
intelligibly and
just putting the note [Author's Family Tree] and on the second and/or
more
pages that the tree occupies write [Author's Family Tree continued.] In
instances like this I prefer to be conservative in adding any
material. We
don't want to cause any publisher to be unhappy.
Just my thinking.
Mayrie
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I might be able to find it on the author's website. If I can't find the
"exact" copy of the tree, I will put what I find and then put [adapted
family tree] or something like it. Any ideas on what I can put for a
note
like that? The other thing I worry about, is if the tree is x pages
long,
but the one I find doesn't fit that number of pages, what do I do next?
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae
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Hi Andy,
Yes, putting [Author's Family Tree] on the pages is a fine solution
when it
can't be represented from the text. I'm just curious, is the
information in
the family tree given in the book, either throughout the book, or in a
single place as text? If it is, then simply writing what you suggest
after
deleting the tree altogether is very acceptable. And if it isn't, well,
sometimes that is just what needs to be done with charts.
Mayrie
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I can get the text of the tree for the most part, but it starts getting
confusing when they have the mother/father split. Otherwise the only
way to
make sense of it is by the birth/death years next to the person. What
the
problem is, is who was married to who? and whose kids were whose? I
know the
author's background quite well, and this 3 page tree is even getting me
confused. What should I do with it? Can I put [author's family tree]
on the
pages?
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A family tree is usually depicted as names of people, perhaps with some
amount of information about them, connected by lines. It is a very
visual
representation, kind of like a pie chart. I don't know about Braille
users,
but I don't see how such a depiction could be made to make any sense
to the
user of a screen reader with synthetic voice. A graph or pie chart
requires
description and I would think a family tree would too.
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] 5 different views of a single page?
I have scanned a single page 3 or more different times without moving
the
book on the scanner.
1. It comes up blank which I know isn't true based on below results.
2. I
get scrambled text that has the header (I think) at the top of the
page. 3.
I get scrambled text with the header at the bottom of the page. 4. I get
some valid text with no header/footer. 5. I get some valid text with the
header/footer in the middle of the text mixing up its natural flow.
This is a family tree outline of an author. I don't know if there are
images
or not. I also don't know if the family tree is in a table or not.
How would
I go about fixing the page? I can send a sighted person on the list the
original scanned image of the page if needed.
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