Ok....I shared the pictures with David Roemer and he believes you are correct in your black/mute hybrid. He was going to look at a few more references and I'm sure will comment here later. I certainly see his points....the more immature swan stuff I see...the more confused I get. John On 2/2/10, Paul McAllister <pcmcal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Fellow birders, > On Sunday, 1-31-2010 at 12:15 pm at Reformatory Lake near Buckner, KY, we > observed a swan that appeared to be a juvenile hybrid black swan. It had a > black neck, pinkish-black bill and a sooty black back with white flecks. It > was with another swan -- mottled relatively dark gray with white and also > with a pinkish-black bill. At first, we thought that both the birds were > juvenile mute swans, but the black plumage on the one was so dark that we > had second thoughts. Both birds had black legs and appeared to have held > their necks in S shapes as do mute swans. There are two resident mute swans > on the lake. The two darker swans did not associate with them and remainded > together. We have returned twice to the lake, but have not seen the "dark" > swans again (the resident mute swans remain). Has anyone else seen birds > like these in Kentucky? --or is anyone aware of the existence of black swans > in KY that may have interbred with mute swans? (According to a UK web site, > hybridized black and mute swans have been recorded.) > > Paul and Carol McAllister > Prospect KY > -- John H. Brunjes Frankfort, KY ================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBERS============== The BIRDKY Mailing List requires you to sign your messages with first & last name, city, & state abbreviation. -------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, send e-mail to: birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: birdky-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject line. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Kentucky Ornithological Society web site at http://www.biology.eku.edu/kos.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * BIRDKY List Manager: Gary Ritchison, Richmond, KY E-mail: gary.ritchison@xxxxxxx