wow. http://www.kanga.nu/archives/MUD-Dev-L/1997Q2/msg01059.php This is a cool idea. This fixes all of the range problems, though it introduces some other problems, I think. If we were to do it, I would say that we do a combination of this and normal room based navigation. Grids would use the complete coordinate system, whereas hand made areas would use rooms, though maybe with a Z coordinate also. I really like this. :P -- +------------------------+ |jbender@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx| +------------------------+ A baby is an alimentary canal with a loud voice at one end and no responsibility at the other.