[bcab] Re: talking ipod mentioned by ian on In Touch

Jane,

You don't need to have JAWS to get the Nanno talking. If you have a SAPI 5 
synthesizer installed, for any screen reader, you can get this to work, 
however, it must be a SAPI 5 synthesizer.

If you go into Control Panel and select Speech, you will find a Text To 
Speech Tab and, if you select this, you can select a default synthesizer. 
This need not be the same as what you use for your screen reader (I 
believe that the default is usually Microsoft Sam, used when Narrator is 
started within WINDOWS XP. I know that this voice is not very good, 
however, if this is all that you have, I believe that it would still get 
the Nanno working for you.

Please log onto www.tandt-consultancy.com, select the Blogs and Podcasts 
link and you can download 2 MP3 Podcasts- one for ITunes 8 and one for the 
new IPOD Nanno itself. This should give you all the information you 
require.

All the best.

Many Thanks, With Kind Regards,
 
Charles Nicol
Business Analyst, Business Analysis, Business Change
Enhanced Single Factor Authentication Project– 4th Floor, Guildhall, 57 
Queen Street, Glasgow, G1 3ER.

( 0141-223-3286 (Short Dial 60 33286)ÈN/A60141-223-3976: 
CHARLES.NICOL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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dear Charles,
I noticed you mentioned about real speak in Jaws, but if you don't have 
Jaws, can you still use the Nano? I don't use Jaws, I use another screen 
reader and wondered how easy i would find it?
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Steve, 

Thanks for this. 

I do have the Real Speak Solo voices from a previous version of JAWS and 
it is great to think that these could be transferred to a Nanno to 4th 
Generation to make menus, playlists and the like speak. I don't mind using 
the Nanno's wheel if I am given some audio feedback. 

As you are using the new Nanno, had you to go through many procedures to 
have the voices sent to it, via ITunes, from your PC? Do the voices take 
up a lot of space on the Nanno? If I have the Real Speak Solo SAPI 5 
voices installed with my JAWS, do I need to point ITunes to my JAWS 
folder? Are there any instructions written down, in electronic format, 
explaining installation and subsequent use of the voices on the Nanno? 

Thanks in advance. 

Many Thanks, With Kind Regards, 
  
Charles Nicol 
Business Analyst, Business Analysis, Business Change 
Enhanced Single Factor Authentication Project– 4th Floor, Guildhall, 57 
Queen Street, Glasgow, G1 3ER. 

( 0141-223-3286 (Short Dial 60 33286)ÈN/A60141-223-3976: 
CHARLES.NICOL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Business Change – Bringing the Business and Technology together 



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Hi Charles, 
  
You can’t use Solo Direct voices, as they are not SAPI5 voices.  The Nano 
and Itunes will only support SAPI5 voices.  But if you have an oearlier 
version of JAWS, like V8, you get the Realspeak SAPI voices on that CD, so 
you could install them and use Realspeak. 
  
Yes, I use the iPod Nano 4G 16GB version, and it is great.  Once you get 
used to manipulating the wheel, it is not difficult. 
  
All the best 
  
Steve 
  



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Richard, 

You mention the 4th Generation Nanno. Do these come by default with 
capability for speech enabling the menus etc? 

If so, could you or someone on the list please let me know if you are 
already using such a device as a blind person with speech and how you find 
it to use? How easy is it to set up and, if you import the speech from the 
PC via ITunes, is this effectively your speech synthesizer, e.g. Realspeak 
Solo Direct voices? 

Is there anywhere on the web I can read further about this particular type 
of functionality? I guess there might not be much of it in Apple's 
standard blurb on the Nanno. 

I am not too keen on using ITell, as this would involve me in another 
piece of kit, in addition to the Nanno itself. 

Thank you in advance. 

Many Thanks, With Kind Regards, 
 
Charles Nicol 
Business Analyst, Business Analysis, Business Change 
Enhanced Single Factor Authentication Project– 4th Floor, Guildhall, 57 
Queen Street, Glasgow, G1 3ER. 

( 0141-223-3286 (Short Dial 60 33286)ÈN/A60141-223-3976: 
CHARLES.NICOL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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Hi, 
 
I don't listen to In Touch so don't know which one precisely you're 
looking for, but... 
 
1.  The 4th Generation Nano can be obtained from various sources such as 
 
http://www.dabs.com 
 
or 
 
http://www.amazon.co.uk 
 
This one is very small and uses iTunes to install speech from your PC onto 
the Nano.  The 16gb version costs arond £143. 
 
2.  The iTell works with the iPod Classic and can be got from 
 
http://www.cobolt.co.uk 
 
The iTell is a separate remote control which plugs into the iPod and has 
tangible buttons to press rather than the iPod wheel.  It costs around £70 
on top of which, of course, you will need to buy the iPod. 
 
Hope this helps. 
 
Regards 
 
Richard Bartholomew
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Subject: [bcab] talking ipod mentioned by ian on In Touch 

Hi all 
Can anyone tell me how i can obtain the talking I pod that Ian mentioned 
on in touch last week? i have wanted an i pod for many years, but to find 
one accessible for me is wonderful. 
Thanks in advance and i will be attending the London version of sight 
Village onthe 4th. 
From 
Jane 


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