[bcab] Re: hal/supernova

Hi Leon,

I believe that Dolphin-UK issued a set of alternative Jaws like keystrokes for 
the more recent versions of Hal and Supernova.

You will probably do best by contacting them rather than me trying to explain 
since I don't use either.

Regards,


Phil Medway
 
ICT accessibility developer
 
Deployment team
 
Core ICT
 
Oxfordshire County Council

 
http://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk
 
Tel: 01869 347639
 
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Sent: 26 February 2008 12:57
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Subject: [bcab] Re: hal/supernova


hi Joe, you mentioned supernova/Hal, well the first one gives you combined 
magnification and speech 
which is very useful for people with low vision.

Purely on the speech side, and navigating complex web pages from the keyboard, 
I don't think 
anything beats Jaws.  It has shortcuts for finding just about every type of 
control or page element 
that exists, and a number of great list utilities that can make accessing 
information on web pages a 
breeze.

Re: browsers I find Firefox the most usable browser, especially for RSS, with 
IE6 having a slight 
edge on IE7 for ease of use. e.g. with IE6, with one pres of the tab key from 
the address bar you 
are on the first link of any given page.   And also in IE6 doing maintenance 
tasks such as clearing 
history & temporary internet files, takes less keystrokes, and there are no 
multi-tabs, or phishing 
filter etc to worry about, making it simpler.

Coming back to Hal, it can navigate most of the elements that Jaws can, but 
some of the keyboard 
shortcuts required to do so are not as user friendly as the Jaws ones, in my 
view.

Of course it would help if more pages were more accessible in the first place!

HTH - Leon Gilbert
Editor, www.vipnews.org.uk
(2007 archive complete, 2008 links started & new developments on way!)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joe paton" <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:31 AM
Subject: [bcab] hal/supernova


Morning all.

I would like to hear from hal or supernova users to try and establish
how effective these screen readers are specifically on the world wide
web.  Which version of IE, and or firefox work best with
hal/supernova.  Are their sites which pose access issues which can be
successfully accessed using other access technologies?


Rather than burden the list with this, perhapse you might e-mail me
off list i'll leav it up to you.

Many thanks,

Joe Paton


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