[bcab] Re: advice on the format of a document to be downloaded from a website

Agreed, Clive. People who don't know any better get options to save files as PDF all over the place nowadays. My Lexmark printer lets you turn your scans into PDF. Oh, joy! 

Vince.
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Hi Colin,

I've noticed this practice happening a lot more of late.  I have only
come across people doing this with their text files since the
publication of the See It Right Guidelines, so I would tend not to be
that harsh on the R N I B in this case.

Best,
Clive


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From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Colin Fowler
Sent: 24 October 2008 15:28
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: advice on the format of a document to be downloaded
from a website

and the RNIB too? Streuth! what are we allowing to represent ourselves
here?
Another example of the sighted people that the RNIB relies upon driving
the business and not having a clue about the impact for us!

Colin Fowler


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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:23 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: advice on the format of a document to be downloaded
from a website



Hi Alex,

as it happens, we've just bought the license for the RNIB's See It
Right information guide and will be putting it up on our intranet
shortly, and building its principles into all of our communications
strategies to mainstream the ideas into all communication.

So, I've been through the guidance with a fine tooth come.  We've come



across several instances of sighted people seeing text within PDF
documents, but the visually impaired person being presented with:
"Alert
- document empty" by the Acrobat reader, and then not being believed
when they've flagged up the problem.  Our technicians sussed that this



was because the text was not text but scanned images of pages of text.
I've now flagged this up with RNIB for inclusion in future updates to
the See It Right information, because the current documentation is
silent on this point.  Your description of the Church notices sounded
suspiciously like a similar instance of the same thing.  It seems to
be quite a common practice for people to take text and turn it into a
picture then unleash it on the public in this way.

Best,
Clive


-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Alexander Shannon
Sent: 24 October 2008 15:09
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: advice on the format of a document to be
downloaded from a website

Hi Clive,

Thank you for your reply.

I'll talk to them about the issue making the points you've raised,
which I had sort of thought of myself, I just needed some
clarification on whether my thoughts were correct, and thank you for

providing that.



Alexander Shannon

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