[bcab] Re: YAHOO GROUPS

You're spot on, Nigel, and that's a good reason either not to go to Yahoo at all or at least to clean up your temporary files and cookies afterwards - the beacons I believe are a type of cookie.

Vince.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: YAHOO GROUPS


If you read the page on web becons it points out that googles tracking of user activity is far more advanced than Yahoos.

Nigel
Big Goo is watching you.

----- Original Message ----- From: <editor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: YAHOO GROUPS


Apart from the advertising junk that Yahoo put into every email, there is Yahoo's poor ethical
record to consider. E G

1. They have been found guilty of helping the Chinese government by disclosing the posts of so
called "dissidents", an abhorrent abuse of free speech which may in some cases may have lead to
people's deaths or imprisonment. See

"Information supplied by Yahoo! helped journalist Shi Tao get 10 years in prison"
Reporters without Borders, September 2005.
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=14884

2. And that's not to mention their use of "web beacons" to track all their users activities.

See "Privacy Clue, December 2005"
http://www.privacyclue.com/index.php/20051215/anti-yahoo-urban-legend-circles/

3. One heck of a lot of illegal activity goes on within the groups, it's been known for
years.There's even a petition, called " STOP Child Pornography in Yahoo Groups". at
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/STOPChildPorninYahooGroups/

4. If you go into Yahoo chat networks for voice talk, there are some of the most appalling
unmoderated conference rooms in existence, with people directly fighting eachother and no regard for
political boundaries, including those which are extremely right wing. I think this stretches well
past freedom of speech and by facilitating they are encouraging...

5. I'm also really peeved that in both the adobe flash player and adobe acrobat readers latest
editions, to "download an install the yahoo toolbar" is an option switched ON by default. The Yahoo
toolbar is a piece of malware that programs such as Spybot will remove upon finding.

6. Out of interest "The name Yahoo! is an acronym for "Yet Another Hierarchical Officious Oracle".
What sort of twaddle is that...?

In my view it's not just about whether a system works for someone, there may be technical glitches
but this is the short range view, there is on many occasions an ethical background to consider. &
in light of the above quite frankly I'm not surprised you used the word "bloody". If I can help
it I''ll have nothing to do with this capitalist, spyware dumping, corrupt, and morally out of
control organisation. Their group system is atrocious, their policy flawed and their search engine
& mail facilities don't even come up to google's ankle.

Just a personal view.

Leon Gilbert
editor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"The wireless telegraph is not difficult to understand. The
ordinary telegraph is like a very long cat. You pull the
tail in New York, and it meows in Los Angeles. The
wireless is the same, only without the cat."
Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Stone" <alexstone5@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: [bcab] Re: YAHOO GROUPS


Wendy, The trouble is that 99 % of the time yahoogroups works perfectly
well, it's just a bloody nuisance the other 1 %of the time when it doesn't.
Cheers.
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Wendy Sharpe
Sent: 25 October 2006 00:12
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: YAHOO GROUPS


Alex

In fact, I re-activated my account yesterday, and today it happened again.
I have even checked my ISP to see if they are blocking anything, but I can't
find anything suspicious. I don't know why Yahoo should be so irritating,
as other list suppliers are not nearly as bad.

I think another member said all we could do was to try to persuade everyone
to change their list supplier from Yahoo.

Wendy

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Alex Stone
Sent: 25 October 2006 00:06
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: YAHOO GROUPS

Wendy, I completely agree with you, this happened to me today, seemingly
completely at random. I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but I don't
think there's anything to be done about it!
Cheers.
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Wendy Sharpe
Sent: 21 October 2006 22:17
To: Bcab
Subject: [bcab] YAHOO GROUPS


I am about to have a moan!

I am very glad the BCAB list is not on Yahoo, as I think they are a real
pain. You are sailing along nicely, and then you try to send a message to
someone on one of your groups. It gets returned by Yahoo as undeliverable
because your mail is bouncing. They say this could be due to your e-mail
being full, which is a load of rubbish, as I check mine several times a day
and delete everything I don't want. I put some things in a saved items
folder, but there aren't nearly as many as I used to have at work. You have
to go through a process to re-activate your account, but you never know when
this is going to happen next time.

Is there anything we can do to sort this out?

Wendy


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