[bcab] Re: Wineyes Demos

Hi Dave,

Sounds like you haven't thoroughly learned the WE calendar application.  It
is more efficient, because you can set your appointments by day, week, work
week, month, or even year, which I believe you can't even do in Outlook,
setting the range to year I mean.  Also, the radio button stays where you
left it, so if your favourite is day, then put the radio button there, and
it will be remembered.

I think it is what you are used to with JAWS.  But the problem with the
Outlook calendar itself, is there is almost no MSAA information that any
screen reader can grab hold of.  So in this instance, I am happy with the WE
interface.

By the way, it is not a WE calendar, it is only giving you an interface to
the Outlook calendar, so of course, you have to have Outlook running, for WE
to get the data.

Personally, in my business day to day use, I think it is the best interface
to the Outlook calendar bar none, but that's just me.  I think this simply
because with any other screen reader, you have to make sure you are in the
right view of the calendar before you get relevant information, whereas a
quick Insert-C gives me what I want.

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-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dave Taylor
Sent: 30 October 2006 19:41
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Wineyes Demos

Hi,

I don't like the calendar application. I don't like the idea of having to
use a separate application and I don't like that you have to both start
Outlook and the WE Calendar application.  I also do like a flexibility on
how I view appointments. I don't like browsing each day to be told how many
appointments I have, I just want to cut straight to the chase and her the
next appointment. Yes, it's usable, but it really isn't as efficient as the
shark,key.

Cheers
Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:26 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Wineyes Demos


> Hi Dave,
>
> What are you saying here?  Are you saying Outlook 2003 is Wineyes' major
> downfall?  I use it all day, every day.  What problems are you having?
>
> All the best
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Dave Taylor
> Sent: 30 October 2006 17:35
> To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bcab] Re: Wineyes Demos
>
> Hi, I found Viavoice to be much more like Jaws Eloquence than is Wineyes
> Eloquence! It's very weird, I put Viavoice on in preference because I
> prefered it.
>
> Now I've only had a very quick look so far, but Wineyes is definitely
> competitive now, and I'm a well known Jaws fan.  I've had a quick play in
> Word, Excell, MSN, on the internet and in Outlook 2003, which was its only
> major downfall so far!
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:57 PM
> Subject: [bcab] Re: Wineyes Demos
>
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Interesting.  I have both WE and JFW on my system here, and there really
>> is
>> no difference in the two Eloquences.  Are you sure that you don't have
>> Viavoice selected?  That to me is truly horrible.
>>
>> All the best
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Dave Taylor
>> Sent: 30 October 2006 16:50
>> To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bcab] Re: Wineyes Demos
>>
>> Hi, The Wineyes version of Eloquence has very cut down sound compared to
>> others. It shoundsh like itch hash a shlur! that'sh all!
>>
>> Cheersh
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:43 PM
>> Subject: [bcab] Re: Wineyes Demos
>>
>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> Go on then, I'll bite.  What's wrong with their version of Eloquence? 
>>> At
>>> least it is not locked to Window-Eyes only, but the JAWS one is locked 
>>> to
>>> JAWS only.
>>>
>>> I will investigate the demo restriction you speak of.
>>>
>>> All the best
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Dave Taylor
>>> Sent: 30 October 2006 15:49
>>> To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [bcab] Re: Wineyes Demos
>>>
>>> Hi, I have indeed tried to change it. I've hit enter to get the dialogue
>>> box
>>> and all that happens is the menu closes! It's true in both versions as
>>> I've
>>> just tried 6.0 as well.  I hate their version of eloquence too! Thank 
>>> god
>>> I've got viavoice on here!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 3:31 PM
>>> Subject: [bcab] Re: Wineyes Demos
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure that the demo is locked in beginner mode?  Have you tried
>>>> changing it in the Global menu?  I will check this out with GW Micro if
>>>> so.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
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>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Dave Taylor
>>>> Sent: 30 October 2006 14:53
>>>> To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [bcab] Wineyes Demos
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Well, a bit of playing around with what is supposed to be a fully
>>>> featured
>>>> demo reveals that it isn't! To get to most of the options, you have to
>>>> be
>>>> in
>>>> advanced mode, and the demo is locked in beginner mode! Oh well! It
>>>> isn't
>>>> just FS is it!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Dave
>>>>
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