[bcab] Re: USING GUIDE WITH PAYPAL

Hi Wendy.
Hal works fine with XP and Vista. Windows 98 and before are no longer supported I believe but not sure about Windows 2000. 

Regards

Graham

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From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:12 AM
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bcab] Re: USING GUIDE WITH PAYPAL


Tim
I have no real experience of Guide, but I think the combination of Guide and 
Webbie would probably be ok for novice users who don't want the huge
learning curve involved in mastering one of the big screenreaders.
I would be interested to know from any HAL users whether HAL does work with 
XP.

Wendy

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From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 24 September 2008 10:19
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: USING GUIDE WITH PAYPAL

Hi Wendy and All,

Before we drop the subject I wanted to clear up some confusion on my
part.  My mother uses Guide, purchased as far as I remember some time
last year.  It does have built in web browsing, which to me appears to
work pretty well.  It has 2 separate modes of browsing, text only, and
full web pages.  I haven't tried to do anything very complex with it,
and certainly not anything as advanced as internet shopping, but this
version of Guide didn't require the installation of Webbie in order to
permit web browsing (though its possible this happens transparently
"under the hood".

I agree that it isn't a replacement for a fully fledged screen reader
where this is what's required, but for the target market, it appears to
me to do a prettty good job.

Regards,

Tim Pennick


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From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wendy Sharpe
Sent: 23 September 2008 20:06
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: USING GUIDE WITH PAYPAL

Graham

I realised after I had sent my message that I was being a bit
daft.  If you have Guide, what you have to use for browsing
the net is Webbie, of course.
I have Webbie on my PC because I want all the other lovely
accessible programs Alasdair King adds to it.  I tried using
Webbie to access Paypal, and it worked pretty well.

I think the person I was telling you about has made a bad
move.  He told me he used to use HAL, but it no longer worked
with XP, which I am not sure is right, although I am not a
HAL user.  He bought Guide because he couldn't afford a HAL
upgrade.  Again this surprises me, as I would have thought an
upgrade would have been a bit cheaper than buying Guide,
which I agree is expensive for what it does.  I mentioned
Webbie to him and pointed him to the URL.  He also said he
has been using computers since 1985, so I would have thought
he would have had more sense.

Rather an odd story this one, and I am not going to take any
further interest, as I think this is someone who will go
their own way whatever advice they are offered.

Thanks anyway for your reply which, as always, is very clear
and sensible.

Wendy

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From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page
Sent: 23 September 2008 12:58
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: USING GUIDE WITH PAYPAL

Hi Wendy.

Maybe someone here who has played with more recent versions
of Guide can give you more help but my understanding of Guide
is that it has livited ability to browse the web.  ou can
read up and down web pages but you have no keystrokes for
going to next heading, next frame, next editable text etc.

This really is a program for the novis user, someone who
perhaps is rather frightened of computers and really does not
want to use one but who needs to

in order to write a basic letter, communicate by email and
other relatively simple tasks.  It's one hell of an expensive
package for what it does, but in fact the market for a
product like guide is limited and probably likely to reduce
over the years as more people become used to using computers..

Rather than the user struggling with Guide, he/she may want
to try System Access to Go.

Visit www.satogo.com and follow the instructions from there
to download the SAtogo screenreading program.

Regards

Graham
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From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:58 AM
Subject: [bcab] USING GUIDE WITH PAYPAL


>I am wondering whether it is possible to use Guide with
Paypal.  I am
>asking
> because someone who wants to set up an account in order to
send me some
> money says it is not possible to use Guide.
>
> Personally I find the Paypal pages very easy to navigate
using JAWS.  They
> don't appear to contain lots of graphics or other things
which might make
> them inaccessible.  All headings, links and buttons are labelled
> correctly,
> and forms are easy to fill in.
>
> I thought I would ask here, as I am sure someone involved
with IT4ALL can
> advise me, and I can perhaps pass on information to my
friend.  Any help
> would be much appreciated.
>
> Wendy
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