[bcab] Re: Trying Ghost Again

Hi Barry sorry but I'm not sure whether or not it would succeed at restoring an 
image from an 
earlier version.  In any event you should create an image of the system in it's 
current state, 
before attempting this.

A recovery disk contains information about the location of the backup images as 
well as the drivers.
Therefore it is probably best to go into the software and choose restore, then 
browse to the old 
image so that it comes up in the list of backups available, before creating a 
new recovery disk.  Or 
alternatively, place the old image in the same storage location as current 
images' default location.

You should then be able to do the steps as you described, both the backup image 
being in a different 
location than it originally was, and it being from an older version, may 
prevent it from working on 
an automated basis.  So you might have to browse to it manually.

Sorry I can't help further but as I said I've never tried that before.   
Definitely create a new 
backup image before you try it!  & Good luck.     Leon


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:29 AM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Trying Ghost Again


Hi Leon,

That's great...

It didn't' answer my question though.  <smile>

I'm not interested in creating backups at the moment I want to restore a backup 
that I previously 
created using V9 of Ghost.

I'll try and word my question more directly.

Are these the correct steps for *restoring* an Image.

1.  Insert the Recovery CD.

2.  Go through the driver validation process.

3.  Select Restore My Computer from?
When I looked at the Recovery Console's disc's autorun menu it didn't' have 
Recover...

4.  The CD will call the PC to reboot.

5.  Providing I have the images loaded onto my USB drive and hit any key to 
boot from CD at the 
correct time the finding of the image, plus restoring it back to my System 
drive and not an 
incorrect drive installed on the system is automated?

6.  Sit back and let it restore the image onto the System Drive and when all's 
done the computer 
will automatically reboot into Windows with the newly restored image in place 
of the previous one?


Barry Toner
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-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
editor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 27 November 2007 19:37
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Trying Ghost Again

Firstly you use the incremental backup option, this makes the creating a back 
up process very quick, 
usually a couple of minuites.

Secondly without a "one touch" drive, starting the program, then choosing 
"create backup", does the 
same thing.

Thirdly, when you choose the create recovery CD option, firstly you put the 
software installation CD 
in, this part of the process checks your available drives, and any drivers that 
are needed for them, 
it then automatically compiles the recovery CD image integrating those drivers. 
 Then prompts you to 
insert a blank CDR.

The latter part is where the program really has got better, i e there is more 
plug and play support
for external devices in the latest version than ever now.   It should support 
most USB external
drives.

Lastly it won't wipe out any previous image file, and creates them 
sequentially, most recent first.
You can of course manually delete old images backed up, as and when you no 
longer need them, to save 
drive space.  You can even burn them as data DVD's as well, using Nero or 
similar.

Leon




----- Original Message -----
From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:41 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Trying Ghost Again


Leon,

This looks very promising.

I have a purchased copy of v12.

Can you help with any of the following questions?

What if someone doesn't' have a one-touch drive?

EG.  I have a 120gig USB drive that has my images along with a stack of other 
files/folders.

I also have other drives connected to the system.

If I click on Restore My Computer after inserting the Recovery Console CD iin 
while Windows is
running.  Is the console intelligent enough to reboot, scan the USB drive for 
the image files and
load them?

Presuming I've hit any key shortly after the machine POSTS and I hear the CD 
wear up to indicate
it's booting of course.

I realise I'm introducing just a few more factors into the scenario you kindly 
provided.  <smile>

This is very useful though I just want to make sure it'll pick the images up 
and won't wipe out one
of my other drives by replacing them with my System Image.

Thanks,
Barry.


Barry Toner
Placement Systems Engineer
Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000
Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511
24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500
Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
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editor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 27 November 2007 12:21
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Trying Ghost Again

This also may help.   I have just set someone's computer up with Norton Ghost 
version 12, combined
with a Maxtor external USB hard drive with "one touch backup" feature.

Firstly the installation of the software including updating was fully 
accessible.

Secondly, Norton are aware of the Maxtor one-touch backup option and Ghost can 
be configured to
automatically do a new image backup, on pressing the drive's one touch button.

Thirdly the creation of a recovery boot CD, which I believe was only introduced 
from Ghost version
12 onwards, was also fully accessible.

Now for image restoration.  To choose do do a restore is in itself accessible.  
 Place the recovery
CD in the drive, ensure the USB Drive where the image is located is connected.  
Choose "recover
computer"
from within the software, then sit and wait.

Catch 1: There is no speech access during the restore process, whilst Windows 
is unloaded, the image
restored, then the PC restarted.  (despite this it happens automatically and 
usually takes minutes
to complete)

Catch 2: The PC on which all this is done, needs to have it's bios set to boot 
to CD, if it hasn't
already.  And at a crucial stage of the boot up, a DOS screen dialog appears 
saying "press any key
to boot to CD", if totally blind you would have to hazard a guess as to when 
this dialog was present
on screen.

The scary moment of course, is doing the first restore.   But following a few 
test runs the person
who I set this up for is now confident of restoring their PC at any time within 
10 minutes.  All he
needs to know technically is:-

Press "one touch" button, hit spacebar on ghosts "yes" button, to backup.
Insert recovery CD, choose recover, then wait for the reboot, to restore.

Simple!  This included about 15Gb of data on his C drive and 4Gb on the D 
drive, in one hit.

* A maxtor 200Gb external USB Drive with One Touch, can be bought for about £50.
* Norton Ghost version 12 can be bought for about £35 online.

I can set this up on site for anyone in the South East region, at very 
economical rates!

Hope this is helpful information.    Leon Gilbert.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Dart" <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:27 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Trying Ghost Again


Hello Barry

This may help. I've just used XXCLONE to image and restore a system disk
which it did without hassle. Here the task was local not remote (I installed
a larger slave, imaged, made it bootable, powered down, swapped in the new
drive - now have bigger system drive). Have just found out it only works
locally.

Regards
Tony


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 2:12 PM
Subject: [bcab] Trying Ghost Again


> Hi All,
>
> I really really need to be able to restore my system drive using an
> image I created.
>
> As symantec.com have went the call-centre/trained pin-hole support on
> their online chat I can't get help anywhere.
>
> I've just ended a chat session in frustration because I asked a simple
> question.
>
> "Is there anyway to remotely restore a system drive image other than
> using lights out or restore anywhere.  Neither of these solutions will
> allow me to have speech feedback using my adaptive screenreading
> technology.  This is a pre-sales question for Ghost v12".
>
> Answer?
>
> Open Ghost!
>
> I asked them if they missed my initial msg to which they replied.
>
> "Using lights out you can create a bootable partition".
>
> Arg, arg, and double arg!
>
> FYI, Lights out is still tied in with the proprietary, non-usable
> without wsite Recovery Console".
>
> Is there anyway around this nonsense or do you think we can ever get
> software included in DDA legislation?
>
> Any novice can pop these recovery discs in and use it but us without
> site can't!
>
> God I'm getting really cheesed off and bitter with these types of
> products.
>
>
>
> Barry Toner
> Placement Systems Engineer
> Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000
> Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511
> 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500
> Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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