[bcab] Re: Thunder

Hi Ibby thanks for the tip,  I didn't know about the self booting CD version 
till you mentioned it, 
last time I got NVDA I went for the talking installer version.   I have 
downloaded this now though 
and will put it through it's paces.
There's been a huge boom recently in "portable" versions of software that will 
run standalone from 
their own directory without requiring any installation, and this will make an 
exciting addition to 
whats already on my pen drive.

Interesting that the CEO's of two of the UK's best independent Assistive Tech 
dealers are such 
strong advocates of this free product!   One might even be able to combine NVDA 
with "Virtual 
Magnifying Glass Portable", from http://portableapps.com/apps
to make a fully fledged free standalone reader/magnifier...

Ibby when you say a self booting CD, did you create a custom "autorun.inf" file 
on the root of the 
CD that specifies the location of the main program?    Also, can either of you 
answer this one.  In 
what way is system access to go, better than NVDA?   I have read that satogo 
has got web 2.0 
support...  and couldn't help but notice that you mentioned satogo after saying 
"or even better", 
implying that it's the best of the bunch.

All the best,  Leon Gilbert
Editor,  www.vipnews.org.uk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ibby Karbhari" <ibbyk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:55 AM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Thunder


Hi Steve,
Absolutely in full agreement with you.
I have NVDA on a self booting CD and a pen drive and I don't leave home
without it!
Cheers,

Ibby Karbhari
Tel: 020 7193 8755
Mobile: 07017 414141 (No text messages)
Skype Name
IbbyKar
Email:
ibbyk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 25 May 2008 05:58
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Thunder

Hi Ibby,

Yep SaToGo is better still, but it is restricted by requiring you to have
Internet connectivity.  NVDA on the other hand can be run from a memory
stick even if you have no Internet connectivity.  Of course, if you have the
Internet than SAToGo every time.  But for a free screen reader that requires
no Internet connectivity, NVDA is streets ahead of Thunder.

Al the best

Steve

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ibby Karbhari
Sent: Saturday 24 May 2008 19:19
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Thunder

Hey Steve,
What about satogo even better still!
Cheers,
Ibby Karbhari
Tel: 020 7193 8755
Mobile: 07017 414141 (No text messages)
Skype Name
IbbyKar
Email:
ibbyk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 24 May 2008 19:04
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Thunder

Hi Leon,

You should look at NVDA.  It is also free, and tons better than Thunder.

Sorry, but it had to be said <Smile>.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of editor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday 24 May 2008 15:39
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Thunder

Hi Roger.  I have both used and set up Thunder for others, it's actually a
very good little program
especially considering that it's free.   It will also work through any SAPI
voice, so I set one
complete novice (a retired gentleman who couldn't even type) up to use it
with scansoft realspeak.

Browsing the web as a task is far too advanced for a novice, however I
worked out a good way to make
Webbie usable to him.   I setup Webbie's home page to be, the RNIB audio
described TV program
schedule at www.tvhelp.org.uk , which he found most useful, having the A D
TV listings a simple keystroke away...

Beyond this, Outlook express including the address book was fully navigable.
Although Thunder did
have problems reading incomg emails when they were still in read-only mode,
pressing either CTRL R or CTRL F took them out of read-only mode where they
could be red successfully line by line.  Word 2000 was also largely
navigable, although I suspect there would be some limitations with Thunder
for the more advanced options.

I think the key thing is here, the price is definitely right!   It is also
in my view a better
choice for a novice  - with the right training - than Guide is.

On the Thunder news front, firstly a short while ago it was announced that
the program is now completely free to both commercial organisations and
individuals.
Secondly, Roger Wilson Hinds
writes a blog called The Blind Blogger, where updates can be followed and
which can be found at http://theblindblogger.blogspot.com
And thirdly screen reader dot net was featured in The Times Online last
week, at this link.

Our big idea: screenreader.net  (Times Online, 15/5/08)
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/entrepreneur/article3930347.e
ce

The information in this article states that Thunder is available in 6
different European languages
and now has almost 100,000 users.   Pretty impressive uptake!   And no
doubt, the price being right
had more than something to do with this.

All the best & have a great weekend (all).

Leon Gilbert
Editor, www.vipnews.org.uk
Improving access to blindness & visual impairment in the media, since 2002.





----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Woolgrove" <rawoolgrove@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "B C A B" <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 1:53 PM
Subject: [bcab] Thunder


Hello List,

Has anyone tried Thunder Screen reader?

I know that some of you may be interested in free speech software and screen
readers.  This one I find tricky to understand but workable with some
patience.

If you are interested, you can find it at:

http://www.screenreader.net

roger




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