[bcab] Re: Thunder

Hi Ibby,

Yep SaToGo is better still, but it is restricted by requiring you to have
Internet connectivity.  NVDA on the other hand can be run from a memory
stick even if you have no Internet connectivity.  Of course, if you have the
Internet than SAToGo every time.  But for a free screen reader that requires
no Internet connectivity, NVDA is streets ahead of Thunder.

Al the best

Steve

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ibby Karbhari
Sent: Saturday 24 May 2008 19:19
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Thunder

Hey Steve,
What about satogo even better still!
Cheers, 
Ibby Karbhari
Tel: 020 7193 8755
Mobile: 07017 414141 (No text messages)
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-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 24 May 2008 19:04
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Thunder

Hi Leon,

You should look at NVDA.  It is also free, and tons better than Thunder.

Sorry, but it had to be said <Smile>.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of editor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday 24 May 2008 15:39
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Thunder

Hi Roger.  I have both used and set up Thunder for others, it's actually a
very good little program 
especially considering that it's free.   It will also work through any SAPI
voice, so I set one
complete novice (a retired gentleman who couldn't even type) up to use it
with scansoft realspeak.

Browsing the web as a task is far too advanced for a novice, however I
worked out a good way to make 
Webbie usable to him.   I setup Webbie's home page to be, the RNIB audio
described TV program
schedule at www.tvhelp.org.uk , which he found most useful, having the A D
TV listings a simple keystroke away...

Beyond this, Outlook express including the address book was fully navigable.
Although Thunder did
have problems reading incomg emails when they were still in read-only mode,
pressing either CTRL R or CTRL F took them out of read-only mode where they
could be red successfully line by line.  Word 2000 was also largely
navigable, although I suspect there would be some limitations with Thunder
for the more advanced options.

I think the key thing is here, the price is definitely right!   It is also
in my view a better
choice for a novice  - with the right training - than Guide is.

On the Thunder news front, firstly a short while ago it was announced that
the program is now completely free to both commercial organisations and
individuals.
Secondly, Roger Wilson Hinds
writes a blog called The Blind Blogger, where updates can be followed and
which can be found at http://theblindblogger.blogspot.com
And thirdly screen reader dot net was featured in The Times Online last
week, at this link.

Our big idea: screenreader.net  (Times Online, 15/5/08)
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/entrepreneur/article3930347.e
ce

The information in this article states that Thunder is available in 6
different European languages 
and now has almost 100,000 users.   Pretty impressive uptake!   And no
doubt, the price being right
had more than something to do with this.

All the best & have a great weekend (all).

Leon Gilbert
Editor, www.vipnews.org.uk
Improving access to blindness & visual impairment in the media, since 2002.





----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Woolgrove" <rawoolgrove@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "B C A B" <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 1:53 PM
Subject: [bcab] Thunder


Hello List,

Has anyone tried Thunder Screen reader?

I know that some of you may be interested in free speech software and screen
readers.  This one I 
find tricky to understand but workable with some patience.

If you are interested, you can find it at:

http://www.screenreader.net

roger




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