[bcab] Re: The Spoken Network Audiobook Sight

Hi Leonie,
Just to confirm Steve Nutt's findings. I've just tested the Spoken Networks U.S. and U.K. sites with both FIREFOX 3.0.3 and IE 7.0. In both instances I was using Win-Eyes 6.1 and am using a computer running Vista Home Premium.
I had absolutely no trouble finding and accessing 'Add' buttons on both sites when using FIREFOX but couldn't find them at all when using IE 7.0.
For consistency I selected exactly the same title on each search e.g. Girl with a Pearl Ear-ring (Tracey Chevalier) from Fiction/Historical/ page 11.
A fascinating site... Lots of goodies... I can already hear my bank manager squealing! Seriously, after testing it out as indicated above, I have dipped into all sorts of categories and titles, throughout the site and had no problems adding titles to my basket as long as I was using the FIREFOX browser.
Can't speak for JAWS at present. Have got v9.0 but have not long had this machine and have yet to add it. 

Cheers,

Clive.S
In message <BE305F91FDAF4E76AB1F32603810B6E3@kheldar>, Léonie Watson <tink@xxxxxxxxxx> writes 
    Hmm. This is curious. Both links work ok for me here, with Jaws 9.0
and either IE7 or FF3. Since you and Samuel reported difficulties with
Window Eyes and Jaws respectively, something's clearly not working
consistently. I think Samuel mentioned that SA To Go had no trouble
either, so the mystery deepens.
 
    The two characteristics that those links share, which seem to be
different from most other links on the page, is that they use
JavaScript to quite an extent and they have some very strange CSS
applied to them.
 
    If you can let me know whether your reader reports the link as
active, or just treats the words as plain text, it might help narrow it
down. If the link appears as though you should be able to activate it,
is it simply the case that nothing happens?
 
    The CSS is very odd. What should be happening is that the link
should be hidden visually. For some reason, it isn't working though, as
both links do show up visually on the page.
 
    Jaws at least honours CSS properties that deal with visibility. The
exceptions are versions before 5.0, which don't really deal with CSS at
all, and versions from 8.0 onwards, which honour CSS visibility
properties, unless it's applied to a span inside a link tag. This is
the case with these links.
 
    It could be a versioning thing with Jaws perhaps. I'm not so
familiar with Window Eyes, so if you can shed any background
information on CSS support in different versions, that might help. I'd
be surprised if WE wasn't quite CSS capable though and I guess you're
using a recent version?
 
    The JavaScript certainly isn't best practice. If you don't have
JavaScript enabled in your browser, neither link will work. Again, I
suspect that you'll have JavaScript enabled, so I'm not convinced this
could be the problem.
    The links are well formed, which means that a screen reader should
at least identify the text as a link. Hopefully, you'll be able to
confirm this. It is possible that the JavaScript is causing the problem
though and if it turns out you activate the link but nothing happens,
this increases this as a possibility.
 
    At a bit of a loss I'm afraid. Will keep looking though. Any help
you can give in terms of information or versions/browsers etc. will
help.
 
Léonie.


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Clive Stevenson
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