[bcab] Re: Subject Line

have only just found this. Thank you sorry for doing a reply on it if that is against the Rules I have got muddled up with the rules for each list. No, my sighted friend is not technical he has just updated from 98 to Xp with many a grumble. He was convinced that only a sighted mouse user could make subfolders until I said but I have made many The only list which had mail coming directly into a folder of it's own not shared with any other was Jaws List.Tony Berry a RNIB set it up. I move all things from the Inbox to a subfolder I have made and only after it has come into Inbox first. so there would be only that rule I like all to come into Inbox but Jaws list to it's own and want the same with bcab. I do not have any sighted person around. I have thought of asking my Association for the Blind to talk me through but fear faint hope, there is no one who knows Jaws. Andrew is back from holiday I think he knows exactly how the desktop is. Re the messages a serious error etc from what I have read on the Lists no one seems alarmed by these messages. I just what the serious error was and could only get hold of some numbers which were Graphics. I thought if Microsoft want a report they want o fix it but I couldn't get it sent out. I will have another look to see why there are for BCAb duplicated folders. I do not want to destroy all rules until I see what has been done. . . There is a difference between copying and moving. I fear I have got behind with filing but I simply do Alt E for edit and M to move it. It is then not seen in the Inbox at all. I think you are saying if they are copied they are still in the inbox. If I ever get the hang of copying and pasting using the clipboard I imagine I could either copy it or cut it. I need to practise that. I have not learned it. actually when I first had the computer I cut and moved things from Kurzweil I shall have to brush that up. so many difficulties have made me neglect the bread and butter straight forward things Just keeping going has been all I could do Andrew with Lunar was a life saver then the Drive failure I have been running fast to just stand still, and can only ask for a bit of patience from you. every day a new problem arises. RE getting in messages on both most of the time that is the case just the odd one not make it to both. Tony was a Volunteer as you know George but when he though my Association was going to lay on some training he dropped out of the picture. There is still no sign of any help all the equipment is there at Maidstone but not one jaws User. they say they cannot find anyone. If Greg Munton chairman is back from France I will ask him to find out just how likely it is, it has been promised.Then it fell through. Thank for this message I do not mean to break any Rules. Dorothy
----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:39 AM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Subject Line


Talking of Outlook and Outlook Express rules, here is
something thing to watch out for, which has caught me out
from time to time.  The first two options under Actions for
Rules are:-

Move it to the specified folder
Copy it to the specified folder

So if you have inadvertently selected the second, you will
indeed end up two copies of messages.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
editor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 30 August 2006 11:00
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Subject Line

Hi Dorothy.  Here are a few tips which I hope will help to
ease some of your computer problems.

Firstly, the issue with regards to emails coming in to more
than one folder.  For many email users this is actually a
choice, they want emails to go to separate folders
automatically to help keep them organised, and this can be
set up fairly easily in Outlook Express using something
called "message rules".
My guess is that if your emails are going to different
folders, there are existing message rules which have been
put on your O E, and if that's true and you DON'T want it to
be happening, i e you want all emails to go to your inbox,
then the solution is to turn off or remove all message
rules.
Your IT friend should be able to help you with this, or if
you want to do it yourself you can do so by the following
steps:-

1.  Choose Tools menu, message rules, mail - (shortcut ALT
T, then R, then Enter on "Mail dot dot dot").
2.  If after this you hear "message rule number X", then
you've definitely got message rules set up,
any that are are all in a vertical list with checkboxes.
To uncheck them so that they no longer
filter messages, go down this list and uncheck each one, one
at a time, by using down arrow and spacebar.
3.  Once all message rules are unchecked, press Enter to
come out of the message rules dialog.  From then on all
emails on that machine should come to your inbox.

Secondly, the matter of having one email account, and 2
different machines collecting the email from it.
Any email which is sent to you is stored on your ISP's mail
server, and it only exists there until
it has been collected.   Therefore if you collect your email
on one machine, then immediately go to
another machine and try to collect the email from the same
account on that machine, you will probably find that there
is none there.

If you really want to have email on both systems which is
identical, i e so that all messages are the same and in
duplicate on both machines, this is a little tricky to set
up, however again your IT friend should be able to help do
this.  What he needs to do is set up one machine to "leave a
copy of messages on server", after collecting the email so
that the other machine can still collect it as well.  This
option is found under the account properties, advanced tab.

Thirdly the matter of Microsoft.  Unfortunately a new
machine with Windows XP is set up by default so that 1 a
user is notified of all system errors, and also 2 so that
whenever you are notified, you are asked in a dialog box
whether or not you wish to send an error report to Bill
Gates.  Both these features can be turned off with a slight
customisation that means you get less crash errors, and that
it never asks you to send them to Microsoft again, which is
certainly more useful for people
who wish to get on and use their machine instead of dealing
with errors all the time.   To adjust
the error reporting settings, again your IT friend should be
able to help but if you wish to try it yourself, it can be
done via the following method.

1.  Hold down the Windows key & press D to go to your
desktop.
2. Press the letter M repeatedly until you come to "My
Computer", then press "ALT Enter" for properties.
3. Right arrow 3 times to get to "advanced tab" then press
"ALT R" for the "error reporting" button.
4. Press ALT S and you should hear "disable error reporting
selected".
5.  Then press Enter twice, to exit the dialog box and
return to your desktop.  Done! no more requests to send
error reports to Microsoft.

In the longer term if your computer is crashing a lot, the
cause of the crashing needs to be investigated.  Perhaps you
could persuade your IT friend to give the computer a full
check for virii and spyware, as well as to inspect the
computer's startup configuration to make sure that no
unnecessary programs are loading at startup.

I hope this little bit of info goes some way towards helping
you.

Take care good luck & all the best.

Leon Gilbert
Editor, www.vipnews.org.uk

PS: I think Leonie is currently the moderator on this list!
I also don't think anyone was being personal, just trying to
request subject line netiquette as politely as possible.


Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban"
<dorothy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:59 AM
Subject: [bcab] Subject Line


This is Dorothy.  If I have caused you any inconvenience I
am sorry,
however I would have thought a  little understanding goes a
long way.  I
could have been contacted off  list if you can see my Email
address.  Odd
things have happened and a bit of help instead of criticism
would have been
kinder.  Take the desktop where I am typing this in spite of
all efforts by
a sighted friend who has used a computer for  fifteen years
and who  uses
Outlook express, your posts are coming into  more than  one
folder.  Not
just the in box.  My ISP technical line which I was able to
get hold of
with difficulty said my accounts  are " corrupted"  he says
I have 1 account
and all Emails should come in on both the laptop and
desktop. Tony a RnIb
Volunteer who transported information over onto the  laptop
said I should
always  receive  emails on both and for the most part I do.
Hence at the
same time as joining this list to lose a large amount of
correspondence not
just from you but  personal and highly important Emails was
worrying  Add to
this that Microsoft has for some time given a warning that a
serious error
has occurred and mentioned a  number of Graphic numbers
which  do not know
the meaning of, this has been  worrying. I have not
understood what
Microsoft has wanted from me and if the  error is of their
making? Is it my
corrupted accounts? is it Microsoft's fault.  If so is it
Microsoft who
needs to put it right  or  I  get rid of corrupted
accounts?  It may be the
case that you do not know. It maybe you are used to
Microsoft announcing
serious  errors. I keep hearing "the system has recovered
from a  serious
error, what is the difference then between being told by
Microsoft about
something they need to gather information on  and my system
recovering a
serious error..   This has all been very worrying for me.
Incidentally who
is the Moderator of this list please?  At the moment I am
thinking of
changing my ISP completely. I will need  a sighted person I
think to  help
me and as stated at the moment there  none as and not ONE
around.  Thank
for
taking the trouble to read this and  as I have said a little
kindness and
understanding goes a long long way. I did try to explain the
difficulty as
far back as the 18th and Leonie does in fact have my Email
address my phone
number  and in my opinion it would have been better for her
to have simply
phoned me if she chose not to  as she did that is her choice
Yours
sincerely
Dorothy Ingram  Gorban Tel No 01892 549 793


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