[bcab] Re: Small (low cost) laptops

Hi Graham,

 

But if you argue that it is not a full screen reader because it doesn?t have
config, then you may as well say that NVDA isn?t, or even Voice Over.  Fact
is, it reads the screen.  The only app that claims to be a screen reader
that truly isn?t is guide.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Graham Page
Sent: Monday 28 July 2008 02:22
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Small (low cost) laptops

 

steve, Serotek don't even argue that this is a full screenreader.  It does
not have the verbosity configuration options for a start that most
screenreaders have and in general the settings the user can play with are
quite limited.

 

I do agree that it works very well however and is particularly useful in
situations where a program that reads most commonly used applications is
required.  The SA to Go application is particularly useful as you can help
solve problems on anyone's PC that has a connection to the internet, though
I understand there some security configurations in which SA will not work.

 

Cheers

 

Graham

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----- Original Message ----- 

From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:03 PM

Subject: [bcab] Re: Small (low cost) laptops

 

Hi Graham,

 

Are you saying System Access is not a full screen reader?  I would argue
that point, it does some things better than JAWS.  Skype is a good example,
unless you go get scripts.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Graham Page
Sent: Wednesday 23 July 2008 12:04
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Small (low cost) laptops

 

interesting academic point at this stage though harly anywhere near viable
for the vast majority of users.

 

I am aware however of the not inconsiderable cost of screenreaders.  You
could use a screenreader like NVDA which is open source or Thunder which is
free though somewhat limited.  As an alternative, you could buy System
Access which is cheaper than a full screenreader and offers decent access to
many of the software packages such as Word, Internet explorer and Windows
Mail or Outlook which would be the most comon applications used on the road.

 

Cheers

 

Graham

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----- Original Message ----- 

From: Gordon <mailto:gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  Keen 

To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:40 AM

Subject: [bcab] Re: Small (low cost) laptops

 

How about this as a possibility? 

As leopard has a built in talking interface it could be as cheap as chips!

 

 

 

Original URL:
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/07/16/man_hacks_osx_onto_wind/

Man hacks Mac OS X onto MSI Wind

By Tony
<http://forms.theregister.co.uk/mail_author/?story_url=/2008/07/16/man_hacks
_osx_onto_wind/>  Smith

Published Wednesday 16th July 2008 09:57 GMT

Fancy a 10in MacBook, anyone? We've seen Mac OS X installed and run on Asus'
original Eee PC, and now someone's done the same on the MSI Wind, aka the
Advent 4211.

To be fair, hardware hacker Paul O'Brien admits there's plenty of bits that
don't work once Leopard's up and running - most notably Wi-Fi and putting
the machine into hibernation mode - and the process requires downloading
some iffy hacked installers off the torrents.

Paul's
<http://www.modaco.com/content/asus-eee-pc-http-www-eeeasy-com/270099/pauls-
complete-guide-to-installing-osx-leopard-on-your-msi-wind-advent-4211/>
posted
(http://www.modaco.com/content/asus-eee-pc-http-www-eeeasy-com/270099/pauls-
complete-guide-to-installing-osx-leopard-on-your-msi-wind-advent-4211/) a
detailed list of instructions for the process and a video guide too:

 

Can't see the video? Download FlashPlayer from  <http://www.adobe.com/>
Adobe.com (http://www.adobe.com/)

The wireless problem can be fixed by swapping out the Wind's Realtek-made
Wi-Fi card for a Broadcom-based unit which Mac OS X will recognise. Getting
some of the other features to work - sleep, Ethernet and so on - is just a
matter of installing some modified kernel extension files.

The upshot is a decent-running Mac sub-notebook, Paul says, though we're
sure his decision to upgrade the Wind's memory to a full 2GB helps. Even so,
that's not bad for a £280 computer. Now, how much is the MacBook Air again?

Related Reviews 
 <http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/06/20/review_msi_wind/> MSI Wind Windows
XP Edition (http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/06/20/review_msi_wind/) 
 <http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/06/17/review_eee_pc_901/> Asus Eee PC
901 Linux Edition
(http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/06/17/review_eee_pc_901/) 

Related stories

Hackintosh <http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/07/15/apple_sues_psystar/>
maker gets legal greeting from Apple (15 July 2008)
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/07/15/apple_sues_psystar/ 
 <http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/06/10/apple_skinny_snow_leopard/>
Apple's Snow Leopard to cut the bloat from Mac OS X (10 June 2008)
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/06/10/apple_skinny_snow_leopard/ 
 <http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/04/16/hacker_slams_mac_cloner/> Hacker
blasts Mac clone maker's licence 'violation' (16 April 2008)
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/04/16/hacker_slams_mac_cloner/ 
 <http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/16/man_installs_osx_on_eee_pc/> Man
buys Eee PC, erases Linux, installs Mac OS X Leopard (16 November 2007)
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/16/man_installs_osx_on_eee_pc/

 

On 22 Jul 2008, at 18:52, Isaac Porat wrote:

 

Hello All

 

I have started a new thread  here hopefully to concentrate on this topic
that like Graham I am very interested in.  This is because I am a great
believer in using a small laptop as the universal note taker / media machine
if Braille is not a must.

 

I have included below Graham reply from the other thread which is very
relevant here.

 

I am aware of the ASUS eeePC (£315) and a model of HP (£375)that fall into
this category and wonder like graham if anyone has experience using these
with a screen reader.

 

Regards

Isaac

 

 



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